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How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1490

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The title may suggest a bad track.. It's missing the extra wording but it grabbed your attention..... There are no bad tracks.... Well... Some... But I'm referring to the way cars behave on the track.... Also tracks that you can't race on.... Some of these tracks are in my view, some of the finest ever made, but....; they behave rather badly for those that want to race on them, in Offline mode..... You know... Competing with something....
In this Topic, I will try and give you as much help as I can to remedy any problems that you are experiencing with tracks you have downloaded from anywhere.... Any questions you may want to ask me in regards to a badly behaving track I will endeavor to answer all.... or maybe Flyer, Shock or Hoover might..? I'm sure, they won't mind chipping in.
I have put together a Tutorial on A1 For Dummies (Part One). Make sure you grab a copy of it, regardless of how Dumb you think you are... The Tutorial will really make you sit up and think about getting things done on your favorite track, that you didn't think you were capable of.... Read it first before you ask me or anyone else about cars behaving badly on your track....; riding the walls or just simply won't race with you, regardless of race or creed.
The tutorial Part One will explain most of this easily and conclusively... A secret I've kept for far too long... No doubt there are some that already know this.... So you better grab it and read....!!!!
You will find it right now,in the Editing section of the Downloads. Please grab a copy for yourself, and read it all. It will surprise you, how easy it is to repair a track's A1.
For anything else such as crashing or freezing. I will try to explain that to you, as we go. If you ask me to explain 'Cherokee'...? You better give me some time to figure that one out... Oh dear...!!!!
Flyer...????!!! I've opened up a can of worms, bud!!!!
PS - Ask away guys.and I will try.

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1496

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Paul I'm about halfway through Part one of the tutorial and I love it. It's very entertaining so far and hopefully will be helpful to people, it's definitely easy to follow, though. Too me a good, lengthy tutorial that let's you follow step by step like this is just as good as a good new track...thanks for doing this.
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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1497

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so glad to hear that Shock I feel better now. Got to have a bit of the old humor for some of these peps, but it is to encourage at the same time. Hey... Question...? For anyone..... Has Cherokee been run by anyone in Offline? Curious? I love the track from what little I've seen of it. Tried nearly everything.. Wonder if it's the A1...? It can happen....
Well... Have checked and it's not the A1..... It's the defaultexture. Have dropped default... Still crashing... Lowered it more and we're good to go, without part of the bend's wall.,,, Dang!!!! If anyone checks out the track with the De2 edotor, they will see a cage above the track. This isn't much good for a DTR-SC track running in DTR2. Will get you some pics soon to explain the defaultexture so maybe many of you out there, should you come across a crashing track, you can fix it... Cool, aye!!

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1572

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A1 For Dummies Part 2 - Conversion.....
is now available in Downloads under Editing. Let us know if these are helping you. Any questions, don't hesitate. Will get some pics of fixing default's using the De2 editor.... which is the reason why certain older tracks crash. Then I will explain after that, why the 'crs' Clayton Ridge Speedway' won't go and how to fix it. A great looking track.. A must have.... But oh boy...!!!! Behaving badly!!!!

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1573

Hey Paul, I can't get your file to download, an suggestions?

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Are we talkin the Tutorial on A1? You obviously have WINRAR. I've checked the download and it downloads. Now the site has changed for downloads for the public. Could be you weren't logged in. That's the only thing I can see that's prevented it. Get back to me buddy and I'll email you one.

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1579

Hey Paul, believe it or not, when I try to open it, it tries to open DTR2, and then says Error reading information file data\dtr2.rbv. This is not the first time I have seen this, in fact, I see it a lot with NR2003 as well. It is weird, and yes I do have Winrar. I was looking into this so I could fix Flemington and stop annoying you and Shock Haha. Plus it would be nice to know. It is the A1 for Dummies file.
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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1580

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you aren't downloading straight into your game files, are you? I mean. That is weird. Make sure you havn't unzipped it straight into the game. Then you will get an error bud. Place the tutorial into your Documents under eg (Dirt Track Works etc). Also if you have somehow programmed Winrar to unzip using another program, which I doubt, this could be possible I suppose. Check that out too.

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1581

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Paul D kiwi wrote:

Are we talkin the Tutorial on A1? You obviously have WINRAR. I've checked the download and it downloads. Now the site has changed for downloads for the public. Could be you weren't logged in. That's the only thing I can see that's prevented it. Get back to me buddy and I'll email you one.


I think you just need the dtr2.rbv file which I will attach:

Goes in your dtr2 data folder

C:\Games\Infogrames\Dirt Track Racing 2\data\

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1613

It didn't work, I use Google Chrome as my Web Browser, normally, I click the download, and it opens WinRar, and I extract like usual, but some things not just DTR2 come up with this error, it is weird.
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Hey ya Nesfan,
sorry that this is happenin. I wished I knew all the internals of WINRAR but I don't. Sounds really weird. So I have a solution. Click on the link for the Word Doco without the zipper. I have checked it for virus's so you should be good to go. Hopefully this will fix it for you and any others that may have the same prob. And hey, thanks for wanting to learn more bud, Good on ya'.

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Yeah I use Google Chrome, also. This file probably went in your My Documents>Downloads folder and you'd have to manually move it to your data folder.
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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1635

Thank you Paul I will see if it works. This has nothing to do with WinRar, because my computer has done this before I even had WinRar. What can I say, I have the worst computer in the world. Everything is a hassle with it. Simple little Java updates take hours on end to get done. Shock, I did move the .rbv file into the data folder, and nothing.

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 2 months ago #1637

The download worked, thanks. The only problem is that I only have DTR2. No Leadfoot or Powerslide. But I am looking forward to part 3!

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Hey ya buddy. Glad you got it sorted. I've got all the old games except Powerslide which I would love to have. If anyone is reading this and you haven't read my Tutorial, I'd sure love to be the first to convert on these tracks....!!! heheh!!! Just send me the A1's (ORIGINAL A!s only) or upload them on here in this topic if you can't.
Just remember that if you have an older game track that won't run properly in your game, check the kb's on the De2 folder inside of that track. If it's the same number as the track you are wanting to fix, then you'll know what to do if you've read Part 1 & 2. If you're still not sure what track is what, open it in Notepad and then scroll to bottom of file and read what the track name says or open in DE2 deitor and read what part of track is and where it originated. One track that I do want to get running was the 'Dantes Canyon'. Remember that one, anyone? What a track. But no joy unless I move all the points of the A1 [rec] file. Too many tracks to sort and yes, still have the Flemington track on my list of things to do, NESFAN and SHOCK. Will try to get this done, this weekend, hopefully. Maybe I should get Part 3 written so that someone else out there can have a go.

FLYER...? Did that A1 suit the track alright? I should go and just download the thing again to see how it looks.

NB - Those Terrehaute 1 & 2 A1's truly suck...!!! What happens is, if you push the boudaries too far, you will get written into the file a set of numbers eg. (2314E-2.125) If this happens? Don't even attempt to delete all the E-. You can't fix it. Delete the whole file and I mean, the entire A1 and go grab another one

Highland Park, I agree with Icefighter. A good smooth and racey track. Well done F1.

SHOCK - KC is similar to KLMS as to the front bend and front fence. I think I know what the base track is. Good call bud. Can't wait to see that up and running.Another question. crs (Clayton Ridge) Excellant track Thin it's from your section. Is it possible if yoiu or someone who has the time, otherwise me, to place a wall beside the original barrier wall. This stops the [default texture] getting through. This is the only way you can fix a [wayne] [pm10] and [pm12] track. If you can't. I will have a crack at it, as I have got one nearly completed. A lot of hard work in the old De2 but not impossible to acheive. Was hoping to get Rhino running back to save in the De2 but hav been way laid, sorry.

Just a reminder for anyone building tracks that are way off shape and the A1 sucks. If you can't fix it even after reading the first 2 Tutorials. I'm still happpy (to attempt) to Adjust the A1 for you. Not really my place to say, but, could you think twice please, before uploading it, till the A1 is done or if there are any deathwalls or crashing, I will also look at it solving. but for you mostly,to save face. You know what some of these peps are like.

We have.... I believe, some of the finest tracks edited for the DTR2 game, right here on Team VLR 2000. A great place to shop and the best bunch to be with... Thank you all for making it so and for the appreciation you have bestowed on not just me but especially for the other Editors that contribute work tirelessly just to make this game an even better one. Thanx

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 1 month ago #1652

Hey Paul, would the first one help me fix Flemington?

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hey ya bud, yes, it is more than possible to do it but you will obviously need a close matching one. I have been away with the fairies so I haven;t had a chance to write the final installment yet on A1 For Dummies but I hope to get to it this wekk. What you will probably need to do is break into the A1 record file and have a good look at what Shock has already achieved. It's brilliant. The thing is if you change anything is make sure you keep a copy of it so that if all goes wrong you can swap back or should you wish to play a little with the numbers to improve the A1, you can see where to make Adjustments by seeing them, correspondingly. Now A1 is a bit like doing Mapping (Co-ordinating Points), if you have ever done this at School. I did it back in the late 60's and it was fun. Unless you love to crunch the numbers to improve what is already there, you won't be able to improve it anymore. Also it depends ofcourse on what file format the A1 is saved in. That's where I screwed up but not impossible to nail it. As far as swapping goes, I have already tried the 'Cube' track and also '4Galveston' A1's as these are to my knowledge the only square track A1's available for the DTR2 game. Neither came anywhere near what we wanted for this tight square track. Doesn't mean that these can't be Adjusted.
If you attempt to Adjust Shocks A1, you will notice that the smaller numbers, after the Decimal point are missing. This may cause problems, but is highly unlikely unless it comes to adjusting it further, then it may be why I have had a challenge with it. Swapping for a cleaner A1 may fix this, but a lot of work in adjusting A1 to make it suit. If you work from Shocks numbers in his you could be on a winner.
Does all that Jargon help? I hope it's actually you that sorts this track out as you have so much passion for it. It is a fabulous track. No doubt about it and deserves a lot of attention, but I will get back to it, very soon, I promise. My work load comes and goes, and the game itself can do the same. We all need breaks but I am one that will take a break for no more than a week at a time. Have a go, and the best of luck bud.

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It's finally here...!!!
A1 For Dunnies.... I'm so sorry...

A1 For Dummies Part3

is now available in the downloads section under Editors Corner.... Please download this and that will be one problem solved on fixing a bad track.....
Hey Nesfan... I'm off the hook buddy.. I can now go fishing.

PS - Any feedback as to what you all thought to the tutorials, would be great.. Also if you feel that I hadn't explained things clearly enough in any of the tutorials especially for this final part being part3, I don't mind hearing from you...

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Re: How To Fix A Bad Track 14 years 1 month ago #1781

Unfortunately Paul, you are not off the hook just yet. Remember I have the crappiest computer known to man, and can not download the file. HAHA
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any excuse my friend..... Having the same prob as before??? It's not to do with the Word program I take it... I have the 2007 word edition but I saved it as 2003 version so unless you have even that one, you won't be able to open it. Did the suggestion from Shock not sort out the prob? I know I keep putting off Flemington. I have been busy sorting these last DTR-AU tracks out that nobody else will have running.. But once sorted, I will get straight onto it... Then I'll go fishing...

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