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One thing I can say is that RB! is the one who brought me up in this game and gave me the !, so in his defence, when he ran Team GLH we had some kick ass races and he put on some damn good shows! I am pretty sure tho they would not have been to proud of the way some were representing their team! As a Team, IFRT is well respected and SHOULD BE! What most seen out of IFRT_Dirty, is not what team IFRT represents, but in due fairness, this is not just a game, PAC-MAN is "just a game", you can always start the same game over and over again! This here is competition, for some who can't afford to put the car on the track, or have to much more important things on their plate, this is the best way to set up a "RACE CAR" and go out and "WHOOP SOME GOOD OL'ASS", and when people just screw around and take out 3/4 of the field is not competeing, and shows the level of ignorance they have!

I wasnt there last night so i dont know what all went down but i agree with rain.We shouldnt bash a team because mistakes where made at their league.IFRT is not a bullshit league and like 007 said alot of those guys havent been around in a very long time but everyone on here should b glad to have them back because without people coming back or just getting started this game we all love will die.IFRT will get it togetehr and return to an elite league if they stay around long enough.Karl didnt have a horse in the race last night so he shouldnt go bashing neone.The only complaint i have from the entire group of dtr2 racers is that people come out to support leagues like IFRT and Do!t and not hardly any of them show ne support to other leagues.JFR had 30 cars tonight and only 1 ifrt and 2 do!ts.Makes alot of drivers think twice about supporting leagues that dont support them.

BLS_F1yer wrote: I wasnt there last night so i dont know what all went down but i agree with rain.We shouldnt bash a team because mistakes where made at their league.IFRT is not a bullshit league and like 007 said alot of those guys havent been around in a very long time but everyone on here should b glad to have them back because without people coming back or just getting started this game we all love will die.IFRT will get it togetehr and return to an elite league if they stay around long enough.Karl didnt have a horse in the race last night so he shouldnt go bashing neone.The only complaint i have from the entire group of dtr2 racers is that people come out to support leagues like IFRT and Do!t and not hardly any of them show ne support to other leagues.JFR had 30 cars tonight and only 1 ifrt and 2 do!ts.Makes alot of drivers think twice about supporting leagues that dont support them.

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I would support other leagues but i am banned from most leagues because people don't like me....

BLS_F1yer wrote: I wasnt there last night so i dont know what all went down but i agree with rain.We shouldnt bash a team because mistakes where made at their league.IFRT is not a bullshit league and like 007 said alot of those guys havent been around in a very long time but everyone on here should b glad to have them back because without people coming back or just getting started this game we all love will die.IFRT will get it togetehr and return to an elite league if they stay around long enough.Karl didnt have a horse in the race last night so he shouldnt go bashing neone.The only complaint i have from the entire group of dtr2 racers is that people come out to support leagues like IFRT and Do!t and not hardly any of them show ne support to other leagues.JFR had 30 cars tonight and only 1 ifrt and 2 do!ts.Makes alot of drivers think twice about supporting leagues that dont support them.

Not only did I support other teams I finished up a XCR series when Bullet was down I also Finished up a WFO series I Ran 2 TNL series and 2 Renegade series the EVR Winter Series then 3 Doit series and a wedge series and teamed up with WFO for a 24 race series (LUCAS OIL) I believe I deserve a brake, Thank you

IF people would put the past behind them I would be at every league race that I could make. YES,I made some bad decisions in this game in the past,but most have and people usually get over it. I have only been able to run two other league's races and that is WFO and VLR. pretty much all the others one told me before the race even started that i could race and i was banned because they didn't like me. I will see everyone at WFO Thunderbird Thursday night

Doit 5 wrote:

BLS_F1yer wrote: I wasnt there last night so i dont know what all went down but i agree with rain.We shouldnt bash a team because mistakes where made at their league.IFRT is not a bullshit league and like 007 said alot of those guys havent been around in a very long time but everyone on here should b glad to have them back because without people coming back or just getting started this game we all love will die.IFRT will get it togetehr and return to an elite league if they stay around long enough.Karl didnt have a horse in the race last night so he shouldnt go bashing neone.The only complaint i have from the entire group of dtr2 racers is that people come out to support leagues like IFRT and Do!t and not hardly any of them show ne support to other leagues.JFR had 30 cars tonight and only 1 ifrt and 2 do!ts.Makes alot of drivers think twice about supporting leagues that dont support them.

Not only did I support other teams I finished up a XCR series when Bullet was down I also Finished up a WFO series I Ran 2 TNL series and 2 Renegade series the EVR Winter Series then 3 Doit series and a wedge series and teamed up with WFO for a 24 race series (LUCAS OIL) I believe I deserve a brake, Thank you

So because you ran all those series you cant bring your car out to run other teams league races?

i believe that the Lucas oil series ended months ago. thats a long break

Hello

Doit 5 wrote:

BLS_F1yer wrote: I wasnt there last night so i dont know what all went down but i agree with rain.We shouldnt bash a team because mistakes where made at their league.IFRT is not a bullshit league and like 007 said alot of those guys havent been around in a very long time but everyone on here should b glad to have them back because without people coming back or just getting started this game we all love will die.IFRT will get it togetehr and return to an elite league if they stay around long enough.Karl didnt have a horse in the race last night so he shouldnt go bashing neone.The only complaint i have from the entire group of dtr2 racers is that people come out to support leagues like IFRT and Do!t and not hardly any of them show ne support to other leagues.JFR had 30 cars tonight and only 1 ifrt and 2 do!ts.Makes alot of drivers think twice about supporting leagues that dont support them.

Not only did I support other teams I finished up a XCR series when Bullet was down I also Finished up a WFO series I Ran 2 TNL series and 2 Renegade series the EVR Winter Series then 3 Doit series and a wedge series and teamed up with WFO for a 24 race series (LUCAS OIL) I believe I deserve a brake, Thank you

what about the rest of the Do!ts?2 fkn do!ts run leagues and yall prob have 20 members.And karl when you show up its 3 do!ts.Why the hell cant some of those other 17 or so members support the rest of the DTR2 world.Are they too good to show support for the game?

And Starnes as far as im concerned ur not banned from bls leagues.if you wanna run our next series,be polite race clean and i have no problem with you running.

I myself support some leagues (not all) as for the rest of the team I encorage league support, But with Doit it is not required its up to each person to deside wether or not they want to league race when where and if. Ive poseted before that Most Doits don't like add on cars or tracks and for good reason. My comit to Starnes it Doit/WFO was the only league that would let him run. It was you Flyer that banned him from BLS and prolonged his bannishment from the game, you also tried the same crap with Tony Doit49. guess what "news flash" Tony was good enough to get past the BLS bannishment. If you had your way there would only be a BLS Team, NO THANKS. THE thing that seperates Doit from everbody else in this game is most of us have been here longer than any team, when there was Respect for each team , When teams were friends, when open forum was not there, when the game was fun, when rules were respected, Im to old to change my ways im going to stick with my EVR style management untill the day I quite the game. and if any Doit members want to quit and join another team thats their right, Doit 11 and Doit 0 is giving u guys all you can handle anyway. lol, I guess you can count your lucky stars Im on break.

Well a lot of drivers take breaks when their league isn't racing because a lot of guys need breaks every now and then and on the Doit site it said Karl was having health issues and so that would be more important than dtr2 for sure. When they start their league back up and if none of their guys race other leagues then it might be an issue. We're all racing IFRT on the other hand but can't seem to get them to race any other league for some reason and then get told to fk off basically for showing them their own rules.


>>Starnes or squirrel have never been banned from VLR either because they haven't done anything at VLR to be banned and I'm not gonna ban people for something that happens at other series unless it's cheating.

Doit 5 wrote: I myself support some leagues (not all) as for the rest of the team I encorage league support, But with Doit it is not required its up to each person to deside wether or not they want to league race when where and if. Ive poseted before that Most Doits don't like add on cars or tracks and for good reason. My comit to Starnes it Doit/WFO was the only league that would let him run. It was you Flyer that banned him from BLS and prolonged his bannishment from the game, you also tried the same crap with Tony Doit49. guess what "news flash" Tony was good enough to get past the BLS bannishment. If you had your way there would only be a BLS Team, NO THANKS. THE thing that seperates Doit from everbody else in this game is most of us have been here longer than any team, when there was Respect for each team , When teams were friends, when open forum was not there, when the game was fun, when rules were respected, Im to old to change my ways im going to stick with my EVR style management untill the day I quite the game. and if any Doit members want to quit and join another team thats their right, Doit 11 and Doit 0 is giving u guys all you can handle anyway. lol, I guess you can count your lucky stars Im on break.

im not gonna sit here and get into a pissing match with you karl.I banned starnes for 1 series.Jammin had his own series under the bls tag and he decided to not allow starnes to run.Me and tony had our problems but i never banned him from bls races.Just face it karl,uve rode on other peoples shirt tales from the beginning of the game and the only way you can get mentioned is to come run your mouth in a forum that has nothin to do with you and start more drama.If it wasnt for the history that the other EVR guys built Do!t would b nothin but a fart in the wind because u my friend havent done nething good for this game since ive known u.And as for respect,every member on bls respects every person on this game until those people dont deserve it anymore as with you,there may still b 2 or 3 people that respect ur old nosey ass but as for the other 99% of DTR2 they could care less if they ever saw u or another do!t series ever start up again.U think ur the fkn DTR2 police and u never come on here when there is something good to be said.Thank you,Fk you,Have a nice fkn day!

I wish as do my members wish we could race more leagues. Its not that we dont want to. But life, jobs, wives they all have an affect on how much we race. We are lucky to put on our show once a week. Its the only way we can get all our friends in 1 place every week. I really hope that all the leagues out there can understand its nothing personal... we really do wish we could race more...Many of us just dont have the time. If you cant understand and wont support us because we cant get out and race more then thats ok too.. we understand where your coming from. All i can say is we all at IFRT do our best to make the community better and support as many leagues and drivers as we can.

Now as far as the argument from last weeks race... I take responsibility for the rules problem. The rules posted on the main site were from 2010 when i ran our last league. For one i never thought anybody read them anyways...lol...but you have and there is descripencies between them and how things are run now. I didnt work the rules page over before now because i just havent been feeling up to doing much, but i am on the mend now and I have changed the complaint rules and how they will be handled. Please everybody look at them before next week. Also i am really glad that each of you hold us to such a high level as to not be allowed to make few if any mistakes. I thank you for that... That makes us work harder at being the best team/league out there. THanks for not giving us any breaks it would just make us lazy im sure. Looks like things can only get better from here on out at IFRT. I really dont think we are doing that bad for a bunch of guys that havent raced let alone run a league for 2 years. See you all next week!!!! Well those of you that can stand coming to such a poorly run league that is!!!!!!

OK im gonna go off on alittle rant.

Yeah I think this thread really took off in a totally different direction. All the big teams are respected and I for one can only run about once a week. When BLS starts I am going to try to make that my 1 night a week track. I would love to have every league get 25-35 drivers per night. As a whole DTR2 wont get these kinds of numbers consistantly as long as there is constant fighting between the leagues.

I have worked side by side with Karl and he ran my league when I got to busy to do so and F1yer has done more for this game than probably anybody besides maybe ratbag (and its still close). I have a ton of respect for both of you. Hell im even starting to respect Shock!

As far as all the cheating accusations of cheating...I have honestly only had 3 people, in the last 5 years or so that ive been playing, that I thought were cheating (and all 3 were proven to be cheating). Wheel has been as good and fast as anyone ever and not once did I ever think he was cheating. Same with A2D, same with Shock, same with f1. They are all very good at this game. However theres not 1 of them that ive seen put down a fast lap that someone else cant hit. There is alot more talent at the top now which to me makes it much more fun. Instead of just having Wheel, A2D, Shock, Rain, F1, myself winning all the races you now have JW, B42, JSN, Fas, D11 and a stable of guys up and coming like Jim, J17, and quite a few that im not mentioning.

We all are competitors and we all want to win and for those guys that say its "just a game" than league races probably arnt for you. Several of the drivers will practice for hours to get a chance to win a race and when someone just plows through the field or dont respect the fundimental rules of racing then its a black eye for the game and make people not want to play. (Starnes that is why you were banned from the leagues but you are earning that respect back.) Squirrel you really need to read this paragraph as well because when you come in drunk and acting a fool and screwing up teh racing for everyone then people dont want to race with you.

We need to come together as a community or this game that we all love will die, at least the way we know it.

I been running as much as I can. I am just getting back into dtr2 and it is overwhelming all the new tracks and such. I had planned to run jfr last night as they are a good bunch of guys. I just couldnt get my ass in gear and get the track, make a set, practice, qualify, and then race. I am getting back into slowly and will make more races. Thanks for having races for us.

BLS_F1yer wrote:

Doit 5 wrote: I myself support some leagues (not all) as for the rest of the team I encorage league support, But with Doit it is not required its up to each person to deside wether or not they want to league race when where and if. Ive poseted before that Most Doits don't like add on cars or tracks and for good reason. My comit to Starnes it Doit/WFO was the only league that would let him run. It was you Flyer that banned him from BLS and prolonged his bannishment from the game, you also tried the same crap with Tony Doit49. guess what "news flash" Tony was good enough to get past the BLS bannishment. If you had your way there would only be a BLS Team, NO THANKS. THE thing that seperates Doit from everbody else in this game is most of us have been here longer than any team, when there was Respect for each team , When teams were friends, when open forum was not there, when the game was fun, when rules were respected, Im to old to change my ways im going to stick with my EVR style management untill the day I quite the game. and if any Doit members want to quit and join another team thats their right, Doit 11 and Doit 0 is giving u guys all you can handle anyway. lol, I guess you can count your lucky stars Im on break.

im not gonna sit here and get into a pissing match with you karl.I banned starnes for 1 series.Jammin had his own series under the bls tag and he decided to not allow starnes to run.Me and tony had our problems but i never banned him from bls races.Just face it karl,uve rode on other peoples shirt tales from the beginning of the game and the only way you can get mentioned is to come run your mouth in a forum that has nothin to do with you and start more drama.If it wasnt for the history that the other EVR guys built Do!t would b nothin but a fart in the wind because u my friend havent done nething good for this game since ive known u.And as for respect,every member on bls respects every person on this game until those people dont deserve it anymore as with you,there may still b 2 or 3 people that respect ur old nosey ass but as for the other 99% of DTR2 they could care less if they ever saw u or another do!t series ever start up again.U think ur the fkn DTR2 police and u never come on here when there is something good to be said.Thank you,Fk you,Have a nice fkn day!

I don't need any shirt tails to ride on, are you serious, This game isn't about respect anymore according to you. Don't talk to me about running my mouth in a forum: "to come run your mouth in a forum that has nothin to do with you and start more drama" yeah kinda like you, cut me a brake. I wasn't going to mention my health issues, but yes Shock is right that is the reason I haven't raced much or started any league racing. My diabetes went nuts and messed up my only kidney i have left after cancer took my right one in 2007 Im trying to do what I can for the game but for flyer to disgrace me for defending the game and its principals is outrages, Theres not many left that started this game in 2000 but believe me I respect all of them, I just happen to be one of the few and that respect will be here untill hell freezes over. Now suck it up and get over it and STOP your Whining about who races and who don't who support who's leagues its a game that people are smart enough to choose for themselves what they want to do. Its not up to BLS_ Flyer to choose for them. and you to have a nice day

Very good Reply ICE!!!


If it weren't for DOIT 5, 30, 4, 42, 7, 60, 6, 87, 3, and many others especially VLR_McGee, and the top dog who got me on my first "Big" team IFRT_RB! then I would probably still be offline runnning .20 slower!!! DO!T played a detrimental role in getting some of these drivers to drive smart and drive hard!!! I spent my 1st year of DTR2 ONLY racing Browser, when I though I could have a fighting chance to win, I started running leagues!!! BUT, I only ran them because, That's where you could RACE, maybe win, and not worry bout getting ran through or wrecked. When I started runnin leagues in 2010, I hardly ever seen anyone hit the wall let alone even wreck!!! And if you did wreck someone you could bet your ass, you was gonna pay for it!!! Now people just come straight in from running a week in browser, and drive through people without even a sorry!!! That doesn't happen much, but when it does, it blows people up! I look at it like this, if I want to just go out and put some laps down using cars for walls, then I just load a track, throw in 20 AI drivers and go to town!!! If I don't care to win and wanna blow through people, I can run browser under a diff name (not that I do, because I like to give out PR for Team BLS), BUT if I want to win, I will come home from work, throw up my multiplayer server, and practice till it hurts, then I will go offline, race 20 AI's learn the passing lane, and hope I have the best car on the track that night. When race time hits, I wanna give those BEASTS like A2D, JW, F1, v18, v0, x59, 97, ( my top 8) a run for thier money, and when someone who JUST downloaded the cars, and track, comes in and blows up half the field, all that work was for NOTHING!!!! So yes ICE, you are right, this is NOT just a game, this is C O M P E T I T I O N!!!! Games come in 1 and 2 player mode!!!! well maybe 4 with Tiger Woods Golf!

IFRT-Farmer wrote: Now as far as the argument from last weeks race... I take responsibility for the rules problem. The rules posted on the main site were from 2010 when i ran our last league. For one i never thought anybody read them anyways...lol...but you have and there is descripencies between them and how things are run now. I didnt work the rules page over before now because i just havent been feeling up to doing much, but i am on the mend now and I have changed the complaint rules and how they will be handled. Please everybody look at them before next week. Also i am really glad that each of you hold us to such a high level as to not be allowed to make few if any mistakes. I thank you for that... That makes us work harder at being the best team/league out there. THanks for not giving us any breaks it would just make us lazy im sure. Looks like things can only get better from here on out at IFRT. I really dont think we are doing that bad for a bunch of guys that havent raced let alone run a league for 2 years. See you all next week!!!! Well those of you that can stand coming to such a poorly run league that is!!!!!!

I'm thinking that the A main and the rules have been looked over, the biggest problem was IFRT_Dirty driving though the whole field (about 12 cars) of his races (his heat & the B main) and not saying sorry, but "Deal with it", his comment was, "My car is set up to run wide open, and if your in the way, oh well, deal with it and get used to it!" We are hoping he will be talked to before next week, or he will single handedly kill IFRT!!!

sorry to hear about ur diabetes karl.my first comment in this topic was gj starnes on his good night he had at farm city.but after reading ur post about ifrt using bullshit rules as they go or whatever struck a nerve so i stood up for a team i know for a fact will right the ship and then u started up about me banning starnes and some other rant.U felt the need to bash someone elses league so i figured i would return the favor.