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I think it was still a good show all and all. IFRT is just making its return, some wrinkles need ironed out, thanks for bringing it to everyones attention. I hope everyone will bear with it, I want everyone to have fun. There will always be the week to week BS from a few drivers,always has been in about every league. Jsn I dont know what happened, but I know your a good guy and I for one apologize to you, cant speak for anyone else but myself.

lol ... Ice is lucky anyway you put it ... a beautiful wife and 2 beautiful girls! Usually gettin' lucky means NO sleep to me. Here lately, I haven't been gettin' ANY SLEEP!

Mama Tiger wrote: lol ... Ice is lucky anyway you put it ... a beautiful wife and 2 beautiful girls! Usually gettin' lucky means NO sleep to me. Here lately, I haven't been gettin' ANY SLEEP!

Dam Rus, you always complain about being old, pffft, sounds like your a young jack rabbit.

icefighter wrote: HAHA I was thinking the exact same thing...Looks like Fas has some competition

I woulda responded sooner, but I was out with my girlfriends, friend. LAWL

Tell her and her 5 "friends" we said hi

I have to make a commit on this one.
Rules are Rules they are the guide lines to any compitition when someone enters the compitition they agree to those written rules as well as the prompter has to judge each participant by the same set of rules. YOU CAN NOT make rules up as you go, it is unfair and unjustified to every racer to do so, you may as well not have rules if you don't live by the rules that was posted. If your rules are out dated so be it, go by them or get off your lazy ass and re-write them. But for GOD SAKES don't make up rules as you go along, thats just stupid. Ice knows how important the rules are to this game as well as I do. IFRT is a Joke for playing the game like this they should have more since and Farmer should throw the towell in now if he going to let RB make such a idiotic call. This crap that Dirt Race cars don't touch is just stupid, they do, you Bump you push you rub. you don't crash for position you race for it. This type of crap is the very reason I started Right Call to get a fair outcome to a bad set of rules or a promoter that just don't get it. This is just my opinion.

Doit 5 wrote: I have to make a commit on this one.
Rules are Rules they are the guide lines to any compitition when someone enters the compitition they agree to those written rules as well as the prompter has to judge each participant by the same set of rules. YOU CAN NOT make rules up as you go, it is unfair and unjustified to every racer to do so, you may as well not have rules if you don't live by the rules that was posted. If your rules are out dated so be it, go by them or get off your lazy ass and re-write them. But for GOD SAKES don't make up rules as you go along, thats just stupid. Ice knows how important the rules are to this game as well as I do. IFRT is a Joke for playing the game like this they should have more since and Farmer should throw the towell in now if he going to let RB make such a idiotic call. This crap that Dirt Race cars don't touch is just stupid, they do, you Bump you push you rub. you don't crash for position you race for it. This type of crap is the very reason I started Right Call to get a fair outcome to a bad set of rules or a promoter that just don't get it. This is just my opinion.

With you not even being there Karl and calling IFRT a joke is very immature. We are doing the best we can, trying to give people a good show. Farm is out recovering from surgery and RB is thrust into running things for the time being. RB is not an idiot, he made a call with many variables involved. If your gonna come on here and call people idots and jokes you better look your own way first, I aint gonna get in a pissing match with you but I have heard alot about DOIT not being up to EVR standards, you calling Jsn a pot smoking idiot and so on. But do I care? NO! I aint here to run your name in the mud, call people idiots, or stir shit up. If you wish to try to be the voice of DTR2 and push your views on others where you have no right, then Jsn said it best, **** YOU KARL!!!

I wish i could sit and complain about our last race at farmer city i only have one but i'm not even worried about it "Make Friends,NOT enemies" with that said all in all it was a great night for me starting dead last in the heat all the way to 2nd. Then we line up the dash and they stick me in the back again and i end up on the pole of the A Main,OK so what i had to block wheel for 3 laps to finish 1st but i still held him off and that is all that matters. All in all it was a fun night and a great return of Starnes!

Ill be the first to admit Doit is not EVR, noone ever said it was. Me not being there doesn't make the Change by minute rules right. Making up rules up as you go along is just wrong weather you think your doing the best you can do or not. Go back and read my post I did not call RB an Idiot or anybody any names RB made a bad call thats all there is to it. Were not talking about my conversation with Jason were talking about making up rules that effected the outcome of the race because RB made a bad call. Don't make this something that it isn't and secondly I don't remember mentioning your name

Gj Starnes!

Karl you said Rb made an idiotic call and IFRT is a joke. IFRT is not a joke and RB is not an idiot. Take your soap box and your high horse and get the **** out of here and stay gone.

Dude you ain't to smart are ya, Go read it again and copy the part where I said RB is an Idiot to your next post. No One can promote a race and make a call to rules unless you have some kind of rules in place in which IFRT had a set of rules on their web site. GO BY YOUR WRITTEN RULES. Don't just say were doing the best we can do. IF Your Team can not give a honest ruling to your own rules Shut it down.

Here is IFRT posted Rules

1- General Rules
This is how the league will be run each week.We know this may look confusing to new drivers but trust me it is very simple. Everyone must have the VENTRILO Chat program downloaded and installed. Not only does this give us the ability to talk back and forth, but also List lineups for each race and call for restarts if needed.IF THERE ARE NO CAPTAINS ON A RACE NIGHT FOR SOME REASON THEN THE RACES WILL BE CANCELED AND RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER DATE. There will be a maximum of 3 restarts. 3rd Attempt is a go no matter what. REMEMBER WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO HAVE THE CLEANEST DRIVERS ANYWHERE. If a race has completed more than half of the laps and something happenes to the server then it will be a completed race. If less than half of the laps had been completed then it will be a complete restart.IF AT ANY TIME YOU GET DISCONNECTED OR BOOTED OFF SERVER BEFORE THE RACE STARTS WE WILL WAIT 3 MINUTES FOR YOU TO COME BACK.IF YOU DONT MAKE IT BACK IN 3 MINUTES WE WILL START WITHOUT YOU.All races will have replay saved by IFRT-Farmer and if there is a problem his replay will be final decision.IF ANY DRIVER WINS 2 CONSEQUETIVE RACES HE WILL START LAST IN THE NEXT A MAIN he qualifies for.
COMPLAINTS:
The newly formed complaint dept. headed by IFRT-Farmer will accept complaints in this manner ONLY!!! No matter what all finishing orders from every race will stand no matter if theres a complaint or not. No switching of spots!! No deals between drivers!!! The reason for this is with this many drivers showing up for race nights we just dont have the time to anylize every issue that may happen and get done at a reasonable hour. If you have a complaint get ahold of IFRT-Farmer he will drag you into the captains room and hear a brief explanation of your complaint. The info he will need is Driver, Which race, and approximently what lap. No decisions will be made at this time!!! At the end of the night Farmer will review all replays and decide if the complaint was a race incident or over aggresive driving. If its decided it was over aggresive driving then the over aggresive driver will be issued a penalty point. Accumulate 3 penalty points during a season and you will be suspended for the next weeks race. You can accumulate more than 1 penalty point per race night. After your 1st suspension has been served if you receive another penalty point you will be suspended 1 race for each penalty points issued. Incidents happen here and in real life learn to just accept this and understand that we here at IFRT will penalize any over aggresiveness we see necessary. No gray areas here this is exactly how we will do this.
Over Aggresive Driving explained:
To set a standard for reviewing replays here at IFRT, is what i came up with. If a driver gets hit by another driver and loses more than 1 spot the driver who made the contact will be penalized. In other words if you get hit and can fall in behind that driver we feel this is acceptable contact, loss of anymore spots than that will be deemed over aggresive driving.

1 - Lapped Cars:
If you are in an area on the track where you are not racing anyone for a posistion you are to move to outside and let faster cars go by.However if you are racing 1 or more cars continue to race for posistion and faster cars will have to work around you.

2 - Car Freezes:
If a car freezes during a race we will throw a yellow and line the cars up where they were running at the time of the frozen car. Set the laps to how many are left and continue on racing from that point.

3 - Servers:
We have 3 server's that will handle all drivers without any warp or lag. NO DIAL UP CONNECTIONS IN THIS LEAGUE!!! As long as everyone is cable or dsl we have no problems running 10 drivers. IP is listed on Ventrilo.



5 - Lining up:
Heat races will be set by randomized pill draw,All other races will lineup by finishing orders of heat race's.

6 - Provisional Points:
We no longer will award provisional points or allow sub's to fill in.



7 - Replays:
IFRT-Farmer will save all replays of each heat and main race. If there is a problem Farmer will look at his replay and make the final decision from it.

8 - Connection:
If we see a car warping excessivly you will be asked to test your connection at www.pcpitstop.com or www.pitspeakeasy.net and give IFRT-Farmer your results, along with your connection and cable,dsl or dialup capped speeds. If your speed is very low Farm or Taz can help possibly get your comp working and or conencting better.

9 - Penalities:
Causing another driver to wreck and that driver to lose more than 1 posistion due to over agressive driving (see explanation above), warp or a driver error--- -10 DRIVER POINTS.

Revenge type or payback taking out of another driver--- -15 DRIVER POINTS and a 1 week suspension.

"Kamakazi" Move into the corner, Not lifting when a driver is on the outside and causing that driver on the outside to be put in the fence or sent outside the track, ACCIDENTAL OR INTENTIONAL--- -10 DRIVER POINTS.

A car about to be lapped by ANY driver and holds the faster car up for more than 1 lap--- -10 DRIVER POINTS.Unless racing for posistion,look at top under lapped cars.

Actions detrimental to Team-IFRT and the League.--- These can be fighting amongst drivers, losing tempers on the server or in the public ventrilo chat. Any action from any driver deemed to cause The team and league to look bad or lose face in the community. If you have a problem choose a empty channel and hash it out there not in front of the group.--- -20 DRIVER POINTS AND A 1 WEEK SUSPENSION.

10 - Warnings:
If at any point during the season the IFRT-Farmer feel's a driver is doing something or acting or driving in a way that jeopardizes races or the integrity of this team and league, he will be given 1 warning to change. If at ANY point from this meeting on the driver continues to act in the way addressed by IFRT-Farmer then the driver in question will be removed from the remaining races of the season being run and will not be allowed to race on thursdays. He may practice but will not be allowed to race on Thursday until IFRT-Farmer feels and approves that the problem has been resolved.

11 - Ventrilo Chat:
All drivers must have Ventrilo Chat dled and use it at all times. On practice nights there will be non-restricted chat during races. On Race Night's their will be no chat during the races while they are being run. Before and after you can chat.Races on race night are to be conducted in a business like manner. All other times its open chat anytime.

12 - Driver Disconnection from server during race:

If a driver suffers a disconnection from the server due to his computer within the last 3 laps of a race you will get your spot back upon approval from the driver behind you at the time and the captains. If you get disconnected before that your finishing place will be determined by the server log.

It's not a joke but RB should have read the rules before making the decision in my opinion.

Am so glad i dont race on-line.Sounds like a day care service.

ERL_J-MAC wrote: You can borrow my car McGee! It'll see more A mains that way!

lol j bo thx but lately been slumpin a bit so not real sure of that..still had fun tho. now IF at any time these wins or makin those features starts puttin me some groceries on the table, i may feel differently til then i'll just speak my peace when taken out then and move on to the next 1..beat up car or whatever lol. bls_33 "stebo" i call him impressed me with his post. dude you are definately an asset 2 our "Game." great post man .

damn i'm tired..need a nap if we going 2 kokomo..c u there maybe..should be fun or.....crazy if anything like last night lmao.

JFR JFR JFR

guys, we are 2 races in from most of us at ifrt being gone for a good while. all i can say is mistakes will be made until we get back in the swing of things. if some cant deal with it for a bit, then thx for showing up anyways and we will miss you.

on ifrt defense. they did say first race no provisionals and will be new rules. rules above still has provisional rule, which in turn makes it "out of date" but quit bashin teams i do ask, we are a community first and formost. and BLS33 is Righteous! I salute you.

mistakes do happen and they are a young series.