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Ping Rule 11 years 2 months ago #53641

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As I hope that everyone is aware, a ping of over 125 is generally considered high and not suitable for competition.

XCR has a long standing ping rule of 125. This rule applies to all events hosted in XCR servers regardless of the sanctioning body. It is important that you understand this rule is not meant to punish people, but rather to preserve the quality of the game and competition. We have some of the best if not the best server available for sim racing. However the quality of the races are only as good as the worst connection to the server.

I would encourage series directors to enforce the ping rule when possible. To help combat this problem a new service will be in use on the XCR servers during major scheduled events. This service uses a proprietary algorithm that will boot people from the servers if they far exceed the ping limit for a sustained period of time while the server is in race status. The details of the algorithm are still being refined and I won’t explain them in great detail as people will try to exploit them.

However to simplify what this means.....
If your ping is much higher than the 125 ping rule for a sustained period of time you will be booted from the servers and unable to connect for the duration of the event.
You will not be booted for a 126 ping. While this is over the ping rule of 125 there is a safety margin to ensure stable pings are not kicked.
If you are not in race status in the server it will not boot you. This is to avoid it from picking up spikes when people switch between the game and desktop between races, ect.

This will be monitored closely to ensure it is working properly and that people with good connections are not prohibited from participating. The plan is that if you are kicked and not allowed to race the list will clear after the event is over and before the next event. However if you are getting kicked every event I will leave you on the list until you can demonstrate that your equipment is fixed.

It is important to remember that each competitor and only that competitor are responsible for the quality of their connection. I know sometimes it is frustrating as well have all had ping problems at one point or another. However many folks in the DTR2 community are willing to help you pinpoint the issue and recommend ways to resolve it as long as you are willing to help yourself(ie don’t steal your neighbors wifi).

Below are screenshots from tonight SDC race of pings that either got kicked or where very close to being kicked. These are only examples and results may vary. Thank you for your understanding.





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That's the best thing ever to happen in dtr2 .. Hell yeah u da man !!
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Holy hell.......that explains the disaster last night.....
A main wins: 151*'

B main wins: 50

C main wins: 5

D main wins: 1

Dash wins: 133

Heat race wins: 339***

Championships: 15*

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that wasnt the only cause of it...lol but yes part of it..
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Doit has always had a ping rule, Its simple we tell you your ping is to high go fix it. I don't agree that a auto boot for pings over 125 is a good idea here's why if you are on cable you are on a block (same IP) with 100's of other users, in most cases you will be fine but if 50 of the 100 decide to watch a vampire movie at 9:00pm on netflix and your racing your ping is going to soar. If XCR has these bad ass servers it should handle at least to pingers at 125 or even 150 without to much of an issue. the cars in question might be dog walking a bit but should be manageable without upsetting the whole field. Orso states that the server is only as good as the worst connection, that's not true. the server will sync all the players to an average so the cars latency are some what equal in server synchronize, true some servers sync better than others. However I dought if a proprietary algorithm of sorts is possible so rather than the BS just say your ping is to high to race here.

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Karl wrote: Doit has always had a ping rule, Its simple we tell you your ping is to high go fix it. I don't agree that a auto boot for pings over 125 is a good idea here's why if you are on cable you are on a block (same IP) with 100's of other users, in most cases you will be fine but if 50 of the 100 decide to watch a vampire movie at 9:00pm on netflix and your racing your ping is going to soar. If XCR has these bad ass servers it should handle at least to pingers at 125 or even 150 without to much of an issue. the cars in question might be dog walking a bit but should be manageable without upsetting the whole field. Orso states that the server is only as good as the worst connection, that's not true. the server will sync all the players to an average so the cars latency are some what equal in server synchronize, true some servers sync better than others. However I dought if a proprietary algorithm of sorts is possible so rather than the BS just say your ping is to high to race here.



so if its an average as you claim than one person CAN screw up the server.

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Karl wrote: Doit has always had a ping rule, Its simple we tell you your ping is to high go fix it. I don't agree that a auto boot for pings over 125 is a good idea here's why if you are on cable you are on a block (same IP) with 100's of other users, in most cases you will be fine but if 50 of the 100 decide to watch a vampire movie at 9:00pm on netflix and your racing your ping is going to soar. If XCR has these bad ass servers it should handle at least to pingers at 125 or even 150 without to much of an issue. the cars in question might be dog walking a bit but should be manageable without upsetting the whole field. Orso states that the server is only as good as the worst connection, that's not true. the server will sync all the players to an average so the cars latency are some what equal in server synchronize, true some servers sync better than others. However I dought if a proprietary algorithm of sorts is possible so rather than the BS just say your ping is to high to race here.


For starters I really don’t give two shits what you think or what Dun!t has. Doit has a ping rule but like all the other rules you don't enforce them. However there is no need to rehash the fundamentals of Doit. I choose not to race there and you choose not to race at XCR. Pretty simple.

If you would read the post I didn’t say it would auto boot at 125. In fact I said that it will not boot at 125. However if your ping is at a level shown in the screenshots you will get booted.

The sync will only help so much. Its not a superhero. If that was the case all the DRTR2 folks from across the pond could join our races and the sync would magically fix it. I don’t feel like doing a bunch of math but with everyone racing at a 50 ping and one guy having 7000 it will sync but it can’t decrease someone’s latency. It’s not possible for the sync to supercharge your connection. The sync was intended to handle pings within an acceptable range.

The server can handle people racing at 7000. I’m not trying to see what the servers can handle. Were trying to have good, clean, door to door racing. (You should try it sometime in your events). With a 7000 pinger in the field this won’t happen. Period.

I have every ip that has ever connected to the servers and there is no one with the same ips other than the people who physically sit in the same room/house. In that case if they both get booted then so be it. Most likely 2/3/4 people racing from the same room are at least contributing to their ping problem. People can race from the same connection with no problem but they need to ensure their pings stay manageable.

I don’t care what time of night that your neighbors start watching porn or whatever else they are doing. Bottom line is if your ping is 5000 you’re not racing. One person’s connection is not the problem of the entire DTR2 community. It is the problem of that one person and that one person needs to take measures to correct it instead of closing their eyes and pretending that it isn’t happening.
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With today's technology an ISP providers there's no excuse for high pings these days.. My brother would love to race dtr2 but were he lives dsl or cable aren't offered .. He has Hughes Net but his ping is stil way to high.. But soon as they offer dsl or. Cable he'll be racing .. But the ppl with high pings that still try an race with high pings just don't give two shits but anyone but themselves
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Better eat them fuckin vitamins kiddies.

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