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Blaze wrote: ive had bms make me tracks and u dont see me bitching about how it looks or races. as long as the banking is close and the size is close and it races good. not real but good. 2 or 3 wide racing idc. this is a game to have fun on. u want one groove shitholes go to rf they have plenty of them

And that is the differance. You're happy with what you want and what you get. You aren't looking for the exactness that Lazy is looking for. You're looking for a good track to race on. Lazy in this case wants an exact track that is as close as it can get to what the real thing was. I can see this because there is a track I want for this game thats as close to the real thing as possible. And I won't be happy with something close. But thats just 1 track. OCFS isn't exact to the real thing. I can go thru and point out all the things that aren't like the real thing is but the track is really good in my opinion the way it is. Its also not the track I want to be perfect so I have no need to ask for it to be perfect. And god knows I love the OCFS we have for this game. I've only missed 1 A main at that track since it was released. Everybody wants what they want and everybody wants something different. That doesn't make what somebody wants wrong just because you don't want the same thing. The only time something that somebody wants is wrong is when it is morally wrong. And while what he's looking for may be a little much to ask for, its not morally wrong.

Unless you're paying then don't cry if something is 100% how you want it. If someone spends hours, days, months on something just because someone asks them to do it then they should be happy that someone is willing to do that when they have plenty other things to do in life. William11 paid me to do Speedway City, although I was going to do it anyway but he wanted to pay me for it so I made sure everything was perfect for him before I put it out. If you're gonna write a book to someone saying how a track they made sucks or w/e (even if you're the only one who thinks a track sucks because it's too racy) then either build it yourself or be quiet. And OCFS is pretty fkn close considering I've never been there and traced it EXACTLY like Google Earth had it and put all the objects EXACTLY where they were in Google Earth


>>>> If I made Pennsboro from scratch then I'd have it very very close and way closer than the 2001 version that's on here, but I am not going to make one anytime soon especially since Ray is already working on one. All my real tracks I trace in Google earth on overhead view to get them as close as possible so (hopefully) no one can complain, but I guess some still will

Blaze... I'm usually and most always a nice guy,and to think its Easter Sunday and I WENT TO CHURCH THIS MORNING! I'm gonna feel like a hypocrite for sure now! But I always have and always will call it the way I see it and I have to say "forgive me Lord" but Blaze or King w/e the fk you wanna be called,you are about the dumbest little smartass that I think I've met on this game! Its like this...you bring a smile to my face and it warms my heart everytime you open your cum-catcher just because it makes me realize that I and millions of others in this world have pre-school granchildren that actually have more fkn common sense than you!

I mean what a dumb-ass and obviously nothing more than a fkn loser who has nothing better to do then to try and start shit! FYI pencil dick there aint no one bitchin!I have been in a great mood all day! What Shock done was nothing short of fkn amazing! He actually took a POS track that has laid around for over a decade and was pure junk and in just a few hours created one of the most realistic tracks that I have ever seen in this game! Also though ,with nothing but good intentions and at my request fixed an issue that did nothing more than take it to a level one step even closer to perfection! But like I said with nothing but the best intentions he elected to make even more changes like slowing it down and making it wider so that it would make it more fun which I totally understand and he did hit the nail on the head and did exactly that,only in the process of doing so took the realism away which is what we were really after,not fun and racey but realistic and difficult but yet much more satisfy'n to conquer! Theres hundreds of wide racey tracks but there is only one Pennsboro and it isnt one of them! Its most definitly one of if not thee most challenging track a late model racer could ever have the pleasure or dis-pleasure of racing on"ask any driver and they'll tell you the exact same! Bloomer...one of the best in the buisness called it his hard luck track!.Also most definitly one that a 4 cyl, stock driver like your self could probably never negotiate in your fkn pinto let alone a full jig chassis with 800 horses under ya!

Fact here is we were discussing the realism of a legendary racing facility and not whether or not its wide and or racey! Both the v2 and the v3 versions are awesome,but thats because he knows wtf hes doing to accomlish a set goal and he did accomplish exactly what he was intending both times! The 1st edit though was the more realistic one and closest to what we were looking for.The only point I was makin was exactly that! Not bitching! See heres the thing about little smart ass punks like you that elect to stick thier shit sniffers into matters that dont and never did concern them,in a futal attempt to do nothing but gain some kind of self notoriety or some dumb shit like that for no good reason other than your a fkn loser and always was and probably always will be,from that feminine voice of yours theres no doubt of who wheres the pants in your house! Just because your a panty waste at home little man I'd think twice before getting on a public forum and talkin shit,especially when ...in the end you succeed at accomplishing only one thing and one thing only and that is to prove what an incredibly stupid jerk off you really are! You know its better to keep your trap shut and let folks believe your a fool then to open it and prove that you really are!If I ever want your opinion on something I'll ask you for it until then keep your cocksucker shut and your fkn snot-nose outta my fkn buisness boy! If youd grow the fk up and learn to race "since its obviously what you want to do" instead of trying to convince everyone around that you know all about it when you "again" obviously dont then maybe just maybe you could win a race all by yourself without having it givin to you because the cars infront of you "the real winners" ...and a fact!, that you couldnt beat,either one had so many wins they could care less if they won or not just as long as they were getting the satisfaction of pissin on each other!

Pennsboro is also egg shaped , i know ive been there plenty of times when i lived in Wva.

Greezy wrote: Pennsboro is also egg shaped , i know ive been there plenty of times when i lived in Wva.

When VLR_Matt made it he made it egg shaped. If you go to overhead view you can see that

I was just making an observation Shock i never even tried version one or 2 just v3 version.This version should make some awesome racing,but for some reason i keep lunging forward in my chair to try and go faster! lmao

VLR_Shock wrote: Unless you're paying then don't cry if something is 100% how you want it. If someone spends hours, days, months on something just because someone asks them to do it then they should be happy that someone is willing to do that when they have plenty other things to do in life. William11 paid me to do Speedway City, although I was going to do it anyway but he wanted to pay me for it so I made sure everything was perfect for him before I put it out. If you're gonna write a book to someone saying how a track they made sucks or w/e (even if you're the only one who thinks a track sucks because it's too racy) then either build it yourself or be quiet. And OCFS is pretty fkn close considering I've never been there and traced it EXACTLY like Google Earth had it and put all the objects EXACTLY where they were in Google Earth


>>>> If I made Pennsboro from scratch then I'd have it very very close and way closer than the 2001 version that's on here, but I am not going to make one anytime soon especially since Ray is already working on one. All my real tracks I trace in Google earth on overhead view to get them as close as possible so (hopefully) no one can complain, but I guess some still will

I never said it wasn't close. OCFS is really close to the real thing. Is it exact? No. Do I care that its not exact? No. Its one hell of a track whether it is an exact replica or not. You took Knoxville, and made Orange County out of it. You did one hell of a job. The only track that I will ever complain about because its not like the real track is Fonda. But I will never ask for it to be done "right now" or in a very short time. If somebody is willing to take the time to do that, I'll gladly wait as long as it takes and do whatever I can to help. I will wait over a year if I need to and will provide pictures of the same section of the track 50 times if thats what it takes to have it made. Maybe Lazy just wanted too much in too little time. I've said before I don't know what it takes to build a track and make it as good as the tracks you've done and will do in the future. I've never been to Pennsboro. Ever. So the only thing I can complain about is how I don't like the way it races. I downloaded v3 of the track and turned some laps. I don't like the track because of how slow it feels. But you can bet your butt that if theres a race there in one of the chassis that I've been running now or one that comes up, I'm still going to be there to race. I don't care for some tracks. I don't like Attica, I don't like Farmer City, I don't like Kokomo, but I'm still going to be there racing whether I like the track or not.



And no matter what you do, there is no way possible to make every single person happy. There will always be something that somebody doesn't like.

Wow lets put it this way.. If your the owner / series runner you want car count or or the track you think is better.. This isnt Rfactor!!!! I love v3 and think it would make one [bleep] of a race...

Wats funny is u tell me how to drive and say that i had a race handed to me. Yea they wrecked eachother but thats not the only race i won. Fk i won more races this year than u have in ur dtr2 career. U nothin but a fkn joke lazy. Beat me then tlk bout how i cant win. Ive showed to 4 or 5 of ur races. Its funny i cant drive. I got a dnf once. But i do believe i came from the back of the b to pass ur slow ass and finished 2nd at deer creek. Started in the back of the b at TDR Eldora to blow ur fkn doors off and win the A. And i beat ur ass at farmer city by over 4 secs. And swept the night. Then u wreck me in the dash at Lassalle in the TNL's and say ooo i didnt kno i hit u. and wat did i do there once again blew ur fkn doors off and won the dam race. Ur funny. Who cant win? Ur a disgrace to BLS.

Wow this is getting deep... Its only a track in a game....

The Canadian Terror XCR_X wrote: Wow this is getting deep... Its only a track in a game....

To you it is. To Lazy it means more. Thats basically all of this in a nut shell. I feel the same way you do, Hell I was on the track by myself, I don't know how it would race like you do. The track might be great racewise. The only point I'm trying to get across to everybody is that while it might just be a track in a game to some people, to others it might mean something special. Lazy just wants what he wants and thats all it really boils down to.

wtf! how [bleep] stupid! Has anyone even comprehended what this whole [bleep] issue has been about? DO I HAVE TO SCREAM AND YELL TO MAKE A POINT?! WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE ASSUMING THAT I AM [bleep]ING? FK PEOPLE GROW UP AND SMELL THE [bleep] YOUR [bleep] SHOVELING! NEVER! NOT [bleep] ONCE DID I SAY I DIDNT LIKE ANY [bleep]ING THING! AND [bleep] YOU TOO BLAZE YOU LITTLE GODDAM PUNK [bleep] POS! YOU STARTED THIS BS RUNNING YOUR GODAMN MOUTH WHEN YOU DIDNT HAVE A [bleep] CLUE WTF YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT ,YOU FKN HAPPY NOW YOU ACCOMPLISHED JUST EXACTLY WTF YOU WAS TRYING TOO! INSTIGATEING LITTLE [bleep] [bleep] WHAT A BUNCH OF [bleep] [bleep]! ONLY SIMPLY SAID ONE WAS BETTER THAN THE [bleep] OTHER! GOD DAMMTT! I WAS UP HERE HALF THE MORNING GIVING NOTHING BUT KUDOS TO EVERONE I SEEN ABOUT HOW GODDAM GOOD OF A [bleep] JOB SHOCK DONE EDITING A FKD DECADE OLD DEAD [bleep] TRACK!I WAS [bleep] ECSTATIC! IN AWE! I JUST SIMPLY COULDNT BELIEVE HOW CLOSE HE HAD CAME TO GIVING THIS TRACK FEELING! STARNS AND I WERE HITTIN LOW 40S ON IT W.M.F.O IN THE [bleep] CORNERS OTHER THAN A SPLIT SECOND LIFT TO SET THE [bleep] CAR AND GETTING DOOR TO DOOR WITH JUST ENOUGH [bleep] ROOM TO DO JUST THAT AND NO MORE,NO 3-4 WIDE [bleep],JUST A COUPLE PLACES TO STICK IT IN THERE AND HOPE YA MADE IT! AND WE [bleep] DID! AND FOR A GODDAMN SECOND THERE I ALMOST FELT I FADED BACK IN TIME AND IF ONLY FOR A SECOND IT WAS DEJAVU AND I WAS SOMEWHERE I'VE BEEN BEFORE BUT NOT FOR A MANY A YEAR! I WAS INVITING EVERYONE TO HURRY UP N GO GET THIS TRACK N GET IN HERE YOUR GONNA LOVE THIS [bleep]!~ I MEAN I WAS SERIOUSLY MORE GRACIOUS AND APPRECIATIVE AT THAT VERY MOMENT TOWARDS SHOCK THAN I CAN EVER REMEMBER OF ANYTHING HE HAS DONE IN THIS GAME!WOW I JUST CANT BELIEVE THIS WAS MY FEELINGS TOWARD THE EDIT HE DONE! I FELT I HAD AS CLOSE AS I MAY EVER GET TO REAL WITH THIS TRACK IN THIS GAME AND FOR THE MIDNIGHT MADNESS SERIES,IT DID HAVE ONE SMALL ISSUE THAT I ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT BUT THEN HE CHANGED THE WHOLE TRACK! THE GRIP THE SURFACE THE PAINT THE SCENERY ...EVERYTHING! WOW! NOW IT WAS GONE AND IT WAS TOTALLY UNRECOGNIZABLE IT JUST WAS NO LONGER PENNSBORO! OK SO NO BIGGIE THAT IT AINT, I WASNT MAD ,WHY THE [bleep] WOULD I BE MAD ? IT WASNT LIKE HE DESTROYED THE ONE THAT I LIKED BECAUSE I STILL HAVE IT,IM JUST NOT GOING TO USE THE V3 NOW IS ALL! IF HE WANTS TO USE IT OR ANYONE FOR AS FAR AS THAT GOES THEN FINE ANYONE CAN DO WTF THEY WANT! LIKE I SAID I WASNT MAD IN THE VERY LEAST I WAS HAVING A GREAT EASTER SUNDAY! IF ANYTHING IM PISSED NOW BECAUSE ITS LIKE EVERYONE GOT MAD AT ME BECAUSE I SAID I WASNT GOING TO USE IT ILL USE THE OTHER ONE. NOW THERES THIS BS TALK ABOUT WELL IF YA WANT IT DONE RIGHT DO IT YOUR [bleep] SELF"JUST BEING SMART[bleep]S!" WHY DO I NEED TO DO IT MYSELF IT IS ALREADY DONE DUM [bleep] BLAZE! REMEMBER I STILL HAVE THE ONE I LIKED! THEN WELL I BEEN PAID TO MAKE ONE AND IF I WANT IT PERFECT I NEED TO PAY FOR IT MAYBE!? WTF IS THAT BS TOO!? AGAIN WHY WOULD I PAY WHEN I ALREADY HAVE THE [bleep] ONE I WANTED!!!!!!!!WHAT ARE YOU [bleep] MAD ABOUT AND WTF DID I DO? SHOCK YOU DID WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO AND SUCCEDEED TO GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WAS TRYING TO MAKE ,NOT WHAT I WANTED ! REMEBER I ALREADY HAVE THAT!A SLOWER WIDER RACIER TRACK,THAT YOU COULDNT BUY A WRECK ON IS WHAT YOU WANTED AND YOU MADE IT FOR YOUR SELF WHICH IS JUST WHAT MANY OF THESE MOUTHS THAT ARE STARTING [bleep] NEEDS BECAUSE THEY CANT DRIVE TOO CONFINED THEY NEED A 40 ACRE FIELD SO THEY HAVE A PLAYGROUND INSTEAD OF A LINE THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK ON!!!SRY [bleep] CANT DRIVE A WIDE RACEY TRACK WITHOUT RUNNIN TO A WOODSHED [bleep]IN EVERYNIGHT WTF WOULD MAKE YA THINK THEY COULD WORK A SINGLE [bleep] GROOVE!? SHOCKS A GOOD DUDE AND I KNOW NOW WTF HES DOING....HES TRYING TO KEEP PEACE IN THE GAME BECAUSE HE KNOWS DEEP DOWN IM RIGHT AND THESE [bleep] NEED ROOM TO RACE OR ELSE EVERYONE WILL BE IN THE SHEDD N NOT JUST THE FEW CRYBABIES THAT LIVE THERE! SLOW THEM KIDS DOWN FOR PETES SAKE MOVE THAT FENCE BACK LORD BEFORE THEY ALL KILL THEM GODSDAMN SELVES! FUNNY [bleep] I TELL YA! SO LOOKS LIKE THE TRUTH HERE IS THE ANGER ISNT COMIN FROM ME ITS COMIN AT ME AND ITS ALL BECAUSE I CHOSE ONE EDIT OVER ANOTHER FOR MY [bleep] SERIES AND NOT THE EASY TO DRIVE ONE THAT SOMEONE ELSE LIKES FOR THAT VERY REASON!I THOUGHT IT WAS MY SERIES AND MY CHOICE WHY DONT YOU USE IT IN YOUR SERIES YOU THE ONE THAT WANTED IT SLOW AND WIDE N RACEY AS YA CALL IT!SO [bleep] USE IT YOURSELF BUT GOD DAM DONT GET PISSED AT ME OVER NOTHING ! I DID OR SAID NOTHING BAD ABOUT ANYONE!

I for one ran v2 and v3...not hating on you shock,the track looks good and yes you can probably run 20 wide but v2 was way more fun and way more challenging i spent 4 hours this morning practicing v2 getting a good set and now i am over a second off from being fast...i say run v2 and if the people that show up can't drive v2 that is their issue...

It's the same width as before just wider out of 2 like you asked me to do

Starnes wrote: I for one ran v2 and v3...not hating on you shock,the track looks good and yes you can probably run 20 wide but v2 was way more fun and way more challenging i spent 4 hours this morning practicing v2 getting a good set and now i am over a second off from being fast...i say run v2 and if the people that show up can't drive v2 that is their issue...

v3 is same as Illinois St. Fair, you loved that one

BTW J-MAN MY WIFE SAYS SHE JUST LOVES YOU!LOL SHE THINKS YOUR JUST THE NICEST GUY! ALL PROBABLY BECAUSE YOUR THE ONLY ONE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE ENOUGH COMMON SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE RACING IS A WAY OF LIFE AND NOT JUST A GAME.

BLAZE ON THE OTHER HAND I WAS TOLD IS A LIL WUSSY THAT COULDNT DRIVE A STIFF [bleep] IN A BUCKET OF LARD LET ALONE DRIVE A LATE MODEL RACECAR ...ROFLMAO AND HIS FEMININE VOICE PROVES HES NOT REALLY HIM BUT HE IS HIS SISTER!

DONT PISS HER OFF!LOL

When is the last time you won a race lazy?

Dammit Lazy......you made me have to put down my ice cream to bleep out the cursing in your post.....



And yeah, even though the closest I've been to actually racing is racing a gokart or sitting in the modified of a guy we know well after the races had ended, racing is my life. I've been going to my track since 9 months before I was born. When I was little I had all kinds of toy cars, well each car had a real drivers name associated with it whether it was the same color as their car or had the same number on it, and I spent many many months on the ground racing those cars. I was having trouble in school and my guidance counsler asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I told her I wanted to be a race car driver. Its all I've ever wanted to do with my life. Now? I've been out of school for 2 years. Didn't go to collage. I work at a print shop making minimum wage. I'm spending every penny I work for on bowling and going to the races. The first car I buy will be a racecar. I don't have a lisence to drive on the road without a lisenced driver in the vehicle with me. Because I want to race and going down the highway side by side with somebody with the pedal as far down as it goes isn't technically legal. Some dreams never die. And this is one of them. I might not actually have a racecar or actually race, but thats all I want to do. Believe me, I know that racing is a way of life. Nothing pisses me off more than somebody saying its just a bunch of guys driving in a circle and that anybody can do it.

you are right shock i did love that one but we both almost fell asleep that night lol....i just like v2 a bit better than v3...i like challenging tracks here and there (usually ones i can actually figure out lol) but yes i do like that track but IMO v2 is better

Starnes wrote: you are right shock i did love that one but we both almost fell asleep that night lol....i just like v2 a bit better than v3...i like challenging tracks here and there (usually ones i can actually figure out lol) but yes i do like that track but IMO v2 is better

Because it took fkn 3 hours to start the A Main, not because of the track.