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Please explain hypershifting and if you can manipulate the game how is fair for anyone trying to race that dont understand? Didnt know i had to be a rocket scientist to win an online race. REALLY wtf is it even fun anymore? Save replay post this whos gonna look at it? Whats gonna happen anyway they ban u? Should of happened long time ago. Not gonna happen. Im a little slow but figuring out this racing is no different than real racing. If theres a way somebody will doit. Please tell me me how i would like to be faster. Gonna try this notepad thing see if it helps. Any ifo would be appreciated.

Dont do it dude. Add me on yahoo This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. You dont need to hypershift or notepad. I have never done either i promise you that! Go to the darkside but still use the force! Don't need use the game, use the force!

thanks for calling me a rocket scientist though

I don't notepad i swear but i'm getting pretty fast

My name is VLR_KP i am the Vice President of Talent Relations for Team VLR. Cheating will not get you anything but a lot of enemys... however you asked the questions what hypershifting is so im going to tell you and to top it off i even found a good website for you to learn more about hypershifters.

According to Google.com Hypershifters are as fallowed:


The focus of hypershifters.com is on tooling for computer supported idea visualization or CSIV. It will cover all solutions that are available on the market, including open source and freeware packages. The added value of hypershifters.com is that it offers research, tests, advice and consultation to novices and expert users. Because the field is so new, many people have questions about which solution to use for their particular situation. Hypershifters.com helps them decide, and for that purpose it offers product reviews, a forum, a selection wizard, a blog, and other things.

Our Evangelists Page features some interesting media on what hypershifting is all about. Find out what makes a a real hypershifter in comparison to a traditional knowledge worker.

I hope this helps you out buddy.. and remember YOU CANT SEE ME!!!!!!!

Jon Ill tell you personally I dont think anyone is H/S. Its to easy to detect and once found out H/S your pretty much done. Notepadding is alittle different. You cant detect it and anyone can do it. I dont notpad but I personally dont have an issue with it because it is something that is available across the board. Plus your not going to gain very much at all with notepad...maybe .05...and thats maybe.

I have posted on this subject before. I don't note pad either. but I have, 4 years ago I released a default pack of all note padded sets, there out there some where 2009 I think, I pretty sure every one knows how to note pad. If you note pad the final gear by .5 its the same thing as .5 on tire size so really theres no advantage but heres the problem note padding between 1st and 2nd gears instead of a 5 spread or 10 or 15 that is allowed by the game you can set a 6 spread or 8, 12 and this does make a difference. Most people can't dectect it. Hypershiftings been around for years, some people rapid shift coming out of the corner (1n1n1n1n1) and some rapid shift thru the corner some hit neutral and floor it then hit 1st gear getting a lunge off the corner. one particlar Doit was down shifting going into the corner then quickly up shifting to 2nd then back to 1st coming off the corner as I observed this technec I could not agree it was hypershifting. The game gave you the ability to shift so is it really cheating to shift differently than everybody else. Is it really cheating to change a set by note padding. Is it cheating to use a controller, they was not avaliable when the game came out in 1999. YOU BE the JUDGE some things don't really matter nor do they make that much difference.

Its really more of an honor system. Notepadding I really see nothing wrong with. I've done it a few times and really didn't see much of a difference, some people swear by it, others just don't do it. The fact that its something that anybody can do. Its basically just fine tuning to get it where you want it. You can slightly tweak a real racecar to make it better and thats how I see notepadding.


Hypershifting is more of a cheating thing because it gets the car going at speeds that it normally wouldn't be going at no matter how you set it up. Then you have guys that prefer running in auto with these new cars so they can't hypershift. But the real point is I don't see anybody dropping the car into neutral on the real track. Only thing I see that doing is blowing the engine sky high instead of making you faster.



If you want to notepad, go for it. Just tweak some numbers. It might make the car better it might make it worse. But thats just how I see things.

Notepadding is stupid. If you notepad then what's to stop you from looking for other ways to cheat? I sent you all my setups last night and I win with them and they aren't notepadded. There are a couple in there that are I think but they are just other people's sets that I dropped in and changed the steering lock and didn't look at the rest of it but I've never notepadded a set and I don't see how it helps. I win plenty without notepadding or hypershifting so I don't see how it would help any at all

Well after reading the following post I just couldnt refrain myself from throwing in my 2 cents on the subject lol. 1st of all I believe I'll have to agree with Shock and say that its just stupid.Any form of cheating in my opinion is stupid.I mean come on its just a game.A game with no rewards.It aint like your gonna go to the pay window after the race to pick up a check.I personally think if anything,the only thing cheating gets you in this game is it lets folks know your true character.Are you an honest person?...or are you not? Is winning in a mere game so important to you that you'll go to any extreme to try and make that happen? I mean really...whats the point? What are you trying to prove? When all is said and done its still only a game,and if you get caught cheating then your just a dishonest fool! You may be a good gamer but that dont make you a good racer. I am in fact a good racer but I am not a good gamer.I can drive the wheels off of a late model race car but in this game I struggle just to hold a line.I will also promise you that most folks with the exception of a few in this game that are really good couldnt turn a good hot lap in a real car let alone be able to race it.So the bottom line here really is this...are you an honest person with integrity and honor,or are you not?

Has far as the different forms of so called cheating goes I'm afraid I have to disagree with some of the opinions I've read.Please take no offese guys as I too am only stating my opinion.

Now...1st lets look at notepadding.....Definitly cheating! No way around it. Sure its available across the board but so isnt all forms of cheating. Notepadding however has you copy'n the setup the game gave you and taking it into another program "i.e:notepad" editing it from its original state then pasting it back into the game file. Absolutely a no-no! I fail to see how anyone can say this is not cheating! You altered the state of the game as it was given you! If notepadding was intended to be a part of the game then Rick Harrison and Greg Siegele and the rest of the crew at Ratbag would have implemented special instructions on how to do it.

2nd...Hypershifting,first off is just a made up word.I'm guessing it could've been called Rapid shifting,Speed shifting,Slam shifting,Nuetral dropping or a host of other things.Either ,or,what does it matter? Fact is here is the truth of it. There is no altering of the game state as it was givin you.You are not editing anything,in no way shape or form do you alter any aspect of the game files.Hypershifting or w/e you prefer to call it is simply no more than a style of driving! Some folks prefer to run auto,some dont,some like to shift right off the corner and let the car bogg down and pull hard down the straight while others like to stay in 1st until they redline it about 1/2 way down the straight and then upshift.Then some find that a nuetral drop or hypershift works best for them.Either way you can say what you want or call it what you want but the fact of the matter is if you think this style of driving is cheating then you must have done fell and hit your head. You use the game and what it gave you without any editing or altering of any kind so please explain how this could even remotely be considered cheating. If you want the truth then listen up and I'll give it to you.The truth is somewhere down the line there was someone that was really fast,then suddenly someone came along that was faster,and they were faster due to thier driving style "they hypershifted" this style didnt suite the other guy and he couldnt get the hang of it thus not being able to be the faster one anymore so he got pissed like so many do and decided to call the other guy a cheater because he done something he couldnt.Of course others that lacked the ability to learn that particular driving style and werent happy being beat by someone whos just doing something they couldnt also decided to jump on the bandwagon with the first guy.Well before you know it they coined the term "hypershifting" and called it cheating and illegal! Nothing could be farther from the truth.Fact is you cant control everything in the game and certianly not the way a man drives.If a mans driving style is giving him an edge over the compitition than the thing to do is follow his example and try to learn his style of driving,incorporate it into your own and give him a run for his money.Dont get pissed and call him a cheater just because you cant drive like him!

Anyhoo...the whole thing boiles down to this....If you alter any thing in the game to make it different then it was presented to you then you are without a doubt "CHEATING!" If you are fast just because of your driving style and you have edited or altered nothing then you have done nothing more than found the keys to success at this game! I dont know how anyone can disagree with this because in essence it is no more than just plain common sense.You edit or alter you cheat,if you dont edit or alter you dont cheat! Now really...whats so hard to understand? Just my 2 cents but I'll forever believe that honesty is always the best policy! Have a great day Gentlemen and Happy Racing to ya'll!

Notepadding is not cheating and the way lazy explained it is wrong.. I notepad my gears all the time. All it does is allow you to run a 82 76 460 instead of a 80 75 460.. Its just gears.. I use it because as you can see in my videos i like my car a little more wrapped out is all. To ise notepad all u do is open Your setup by double clicking and it automatically opens in notepad.. Once opened you can then adjust your gears to wat you want.. I dont think it makes you and faster.. I race real life and if i wanna theow on a 11 tooth driver then im gonna. Nobody gonna tell me wat exact gears i can run..notepadding been around along time.. I never heard of anyway to add anything else in notepad that helps ya.. Half my sets are notepadded just depends on track..this just my opinion.

If it doesn't make you any faster than why would you take the time to do it? If it didn't help me any I wouldn't even bother with the time to open up notepad

Shock the easy way to explain it is just like when u go karted and the track was a little slick you could adjust your gears to bog down so you dont spin out hitting throttle put of corner.. Finding the perfect gear helps that but doesnt make you faster.. For me it helps stabilize me especially that im on a wheel.. On a controller it probly easy for you because you can drag brake easily than me.. Plus you can quickly just move your thumb on joystick to correct it wrather than having to saw at wheel.. If you think its cheating then call me a cheater.. But you better start adding half of dtr2 to that list.. I was just explaining my end of how it works..some of the fastest guys in the game showed me how and i still have sets from then.. Hypershifting is totallt different we all know how to spot that...

I have the 2009_EVR_RP sets. They were my first sets and only sets I have ever used, BUT I took all the notepadding off. If the gearing showed up 80 65 462 or 80 76 477 I changed them back to the DF setting as 80 65 460 & 80 75 475-480, and I actually was faster when I set it back to the default numbers, If anything they do as Ryan said, they stabelize the cars shifter (driver) but in turn, slows him down to be smoother than faster ( I think, at least it was with me), But if you look at the sets that I have made (anyone that doesn't have someones name in with it) they are all pretty basic. I use no bigger than 86 fronts with 86 rears, and no bigger than 87.5 fronts with 89 rears. I like to build a set for my car to be realistic (OPP YA YOU KNOW ME), so you won't see that 87 LF unless I used someone elses set and didn't change it which is very rare. So ntepadding is not a crime in my eyes as long as it's with just the gearing. Now when people mess with the notepadding of chassis and tracks, then that is Cheating!!! So to be just like the millions of assholes That's JMO!!!

I aree jason...all my sets are on site and anyone can look at them.. Only notepadding i think u can do anyway is gears.. Like jason said it stabilizes in corners.. Like i said i will run watever gears i want to at the track.. See ya on the track boys

In mine, I notepadded the gears and the toe in of my tires. I wanted it at zero instead of -0.1. The only time I've ever notepadded a Chassis or a track is so I could run my skin on a Big Block in the Concept Mods offline and I changed the AI laptimes so I wasn't 5 laps ahead.

VLR_Shock wrote: Notepadding is stupid. If you notepad then what's to stop you from looking for other ways to cheat? I sent you all my setups last night and I win with them and they aren't notepadded. There are a couple in there that are I think but they are just other people's sets that I dropped in and changed the steering lock and didn't look at the rest of it but I've never notepadded a set and I don't see how it helps. I win plenty without notepadding or hypershifting so I don't see how it would help any at all

Note padding helps, I have done it before, and I have gotten sets from Shock that have been note padded. Although I don't think he does it much at all, I know he has before. None the less who cares, note padding has been being done for years.

And to the guy that said setting up a DTR 2 car is like rocket science......I give you the setup sheet for an iRacing F1 car......GOOD LUCK!!!!

dizzle wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote: Notepadding is stupid. If you notepad then what's to stop you from looking for other ways to cheat? I sent you all my setups last night and I win with them and they aren't notepadded. There are a couple in there that are I think but they are just other people's sets that I dropped in and changed the steering lock and didn't look at the rest of it but I've never notepadded a set and I don't see how it helps. I win plenty without notepadding or hypershifting so I don't see how it would help any at all

Note padding helps, I have done it before, and I have gotten sets from Shock that have been note padded. Although I don't think he does it much at all, I know he has before. None the less who cares, note padding has been being done for years.

And to the guy that said setting up a DTR 2 car is like rocket science......I give you the setup sheet for an iRacing F1 car......GOOD LUCK!!!!

IVE NEVER DONE IT!!!!!!!!

And if I sent you a set like that (Which I don't think I did) then it was a set someone else sent me. I know for a fact I've never notepadded one of my sets and raced it so you either didn't get it from me or it was someone's that sent me one and I didn't look to see if it was notepadded. But I know I've never opened notepad to edit a fkn set because it's retarded and like I've said a million times it obviously doesn't help anyone. I guess it just makes them feel like they are accomplishing something.

I don't even think notepad is cheating because it obviously doesn't make people faster or I'd never win because I don't do it...it's just morally wrong to me and if they notepad I think they will go looking for other things to cheat with.