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I kinda get it with Rhino but obviously need a lot more confidence especially after accidentally moving track over while building the pit lane entrance, and I wonder why I bothered doin one but hey... One learns from mistakes. Luckily from years of some experience I always save a copy of previous edit. I have been doin both Rhino and with manual editing sadly as the fine points are tricky to load up to move. I'm not too old to learn a new thing.

Anyhoo, getting back to you Shock... That editor of yours I can't wait for and hope there are others too who are keen to try it out as taking something like a Stadium like you have and adding it to different sized track is going to be great stuff. I've got far enough to try it on this test track of mine being of course WVMS as it's a real simple track DTR-SC which is why I chose it to learn Rhino on....

Heres what I have so far. The poles on both sides are moved by Rhino but sadly had to be fixed with De2 edit. The pits with Trucks I did move with Rhino twice as you did suggest and yes I manged that.



As you will see the Pit exit is somewhat in need of more work so will continue on. Rhino is quicker which ever way you look. I'm a leaner at 68 so will make mistakes..., but prefer to learn this now before I'm too much in pain to even handle De2 which is important for me to get this sorted. Thankyou Shock.

Update..... Not been sitting on my whatsit. Have been messing with Rhino 2 so much that the last save on Texas Mtr was a no go... Oooh dear.... I finally grasped the beast....!!!! Luckily I had made some saves like an editor should..... 25 saves was not enough... I went through that many....???!!!

Okay so I tried to delete all files of Rhino 2 and set about to install again.... Sadly, no can do.... Okay so I decided to try and use the newer Rhino 3 but forgot about the non understanding of Poly's Objects being transferred to De2.... The track was smashed and non drive-able.... So as I stated above I had saved a few efforts before on Rhino and it was better than nothing.

This is what I have....



I did enjoy the results of Rhino and it does take some effort to get around the using of and I hadn't even got to deform anything.... Love to try again but might have to be on another PC... The back straight would have been more trickier without using Rhino. The billboards i.e not to mention all the poles I pulled into center... I know they need texturing but it's an enormous job when you have to move these objects without Rhino, is what I'm getting at. Been a pleasure coming to grips with it and urge more to do the same..., especially if your young...

Thank you Shock for the opportunity.

Hey Paul! The Rhino 2 actually has a crack that will give you unlimited uses. YOu just need reinstall it, and then once it's installed, go to the folder it installed in

Copy this file from the .zip you downloaded into the main folder it installed to: asa-rh20eval-20010910.exe

Then double click it and it should "patch" your rhino, giving you unlimited saves.

Hi Shock and thanks for getting back to me. I did actually press on that asa file...thought it was some old M DOSS thing and said to hit any button. This took place after I had uninstalled Rhino and then removed final folder in Programs etc.. Then I installed for the second time and decided I would try that folder thinking that it had something to do with adding Alpha tool to Rhino. But I got nothing... I will attempt to uninstall again and then try loading up... I will post if I am successful or not..

Hang on... I misread your post so will do exactly as you said... It's the old school coming out in me sorry.

trail error my friend i do it alote

Did try that and nah.... PC must have it registered somewhere and knowing where to look so as to get a fresh start on this would be great but the old dog keeps comin out in me. I am not Tech savvy enough although it seems I can spell it. Big lesson learnt here and almost fluent in Rhino but flunked it. Any ideas Shock...?

Sorry didn't se you in here Darren. Trials are great but buy plus tax plus the other sorry. Glad you have trials erreors too. I think we all do. DTR-AU I learnt somethings like adding tracks into a demo that could only be started and played so many times I think...2001. But I did buy the game and have never looked back.

This Martinsville *almost* works. The car just falls through the track at certain parts.

It looks nice and i know it's been a lot of work sorting out the files for Rfactor.Well done so far. Exciting stuff. Well worth having this Adding Tool.

Okay, I'm here.... Needing a way to drop Email FB Account to you Shock Let us know.. I will try and keep this PC going till I see you

Not sure what you mean exactly paul, but if you got facebook, you can friend request my account at this URL

www.facebook.com/howard.weaver1/

I copied as a link and placed in search FB. I have little knowlege of these things as you are no doubt aware. It doesn't appear to be of your character to what I can make out. Will have another look.

Okay just hitting the FB you put up shows much better content. I will try and link into your FB somehow.

Messaged you and left Email Shock.

You emailed me? I didn't see it. My email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

Or you can tell me your name on Facebook and I'll try to find you.

Sorry about delay.. Been so busy this morning. I have gone into FB and you are there on my list... I can see if we have video on this PC and only if your available of course..
Shock, just check your friend request as my wife sent it for me through my FB.
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

I don't see the friend request unfortunately

Yeah, these new gagdets.... I have put my email for FB up I don't even know where to look Email let alone if I do remeber my loggin. Crazy at my age.

Hey Shock.., take a look in Messenger.

Try this! I didn't mess with any grip stuff so it can be a lot better, but should be a driveable track from another game!

It feels great. Like the corners. Just need the a1 sorting?

Such a great achievement Shock, well done. The future looks even brighter

Just had a look in De2 to see config (Nth-Sth) and its long.... Not sure if anything would suit A1 and when I had a look in A1 I can see that you used 3ds edit I believe to align cars to track. I would need to try a test fit with other tracks (A1) in our game.

Sorry Shock but FB has again demanded that I have face verified and can't understand what I did to provoke it.
On a better note I did discover in Notepad that that silly thing demands I save as a file after changes in str and yeah.., it works. Will try and sort De2 editing for Rhino first... Did try yesterday but the 3ds is not showing as one. I'm doing something wrong so will go back and read anything you have written.
So I can change names of tracks thank goodness. My can't make it over till tonight to sort FB out again.

All go with Rhino. Here's my opening pic of Sydney.


Not all go just yet.. A gliche. Importing back as a saved 3ds I'm presuming? I know about the record button as I remember that bit but it's just not coming up in the De2 display sorry to be a pain.

I'm at a loss to explain why Texdraw is not working the way I use to use it... The 16bt 32bt etc has stopped me even making a Preview.. I think I've forgotten so much about the nuts and bolts of DTR2 or I'm going completely insane..!!! Importing 3ds from Rhino is not happening and FB well.... Thats back to where I was a week ago..., with no face so... Might need a camera I guess... Such a rant I know... Thinking that this machine just isn't making my life great, so I think its time to shop again.. If you want to suggest anything anybody..., then am grateful.