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Seems like all we have in here is drivers running others down. I think these fourms have gotten way out of control with people coming in and blasting on others all the time. Then you have the hiders who come in and dont have the balls to use their real name to put others down. Shock you have been GREAT for this game and you have the power to put a stop to all the negative stuff going on. People come into these fourms to see what kind of racing goes on and all they see is people b!tc#in and complaining to about how they cant drive or do stupid stuff and why would they want to come race in a game like that? I think it is time that this entire fourm (myself included) grow up alittle and start treating each other with respect and maybe...just maybe we can get this game back to the days when you would have 3 shows going at the same time with 20+ drivers and the occational 40-50-60 car show (I know VLR does this weekly ). OK rant over

Your right there is a lot of complaining and so and so going on but you know its all part of racing. Go to www.midsouthracing.com and visit their forums its got discussions from tracks all around and you will see A LOT of arguing and complaining. Without half of these arguements on here we would be bored with nothing to read except for when the next race is or a new series starting up. I think the hider accounts should be eliminated but not all the arguing, its part of the sport.

Sometimes you just gotta let it out...ERL thread. I see they changed their rules for next week to allow up to 5 minutes (good call, we only needed one), but I still don't wanna race it after that. VLR only has one more race anyway so it doesn't matter

I know there is arguing in racing and I know we arnt going to eliminate all of it but it seems like that is all I read about anymore. Personally if I have an issue with someone I will talk to them in vent or on yahoo. 1 time I can remember bringing it to the fourms and that was because someone else had actually brough a private conversation in here.

I like to handle things internally and if Im upset the entire world dont need to know who im PO'd at.

VLR_Shock wrote: Sometimes you just gotta let it out...ERL thread. I see they changed their rules for next week to allow up to 5 minutes (good call, we only needed one), but I still don't wanna race it after that. VLR only has one more race anyway so it doesn't matter

I hope you at least tried to talk to him on messanger or something after some cool down time before you brought it in here though

I did. Actually I didn't say anything on yahoo or here. He wrote me on Yahoo asking why I called him a jackass in vent and I explained

It will always be here as long as Shock runs the show here on www.teamvlr.com

JFR_Jim wrote: It will always be here as long as Shock runs the show here on www.teamvlr.com

Like I said Shock is the only one with the power to stop all the craziness!

I think it would just have to be shut down to stop allllllllll the arguing. Moderators can delete what they want, if I don't think it's bad or offensive to anyone I can just restore it

Im not deleting anything anymore but I think the hider names are the biggest problems. I would delete those if I could!

now i dont think ice or shock are the only ones that could stop this. truely if most of these guys would step back a minute and grow up themselves alot of it would take care of itself. while there will always be a few,, it would be nice to keep it to that,,,,, afew. this site has so much great info on it that its a shame to disgrace it the way some do.

This forum is super mild compared to most forums. I think people are well aware of fake names, and probably tend to ignore them. It is not possible to have a forum without trolls and flamers, and besides, that stuffs fun....