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I think Wheels idea is the best option I've seen so far. I like the idea of only having 3 heats no matter how many cars show up. For me its simply a matter of the time involved to run so many qualifying races, I just don't have the time for a 2 hour+ show most weeks. If I can't be one of the 5 fastest non top 25 pt guys, thats just tough shit for me. One question, will top 25 point guys be able to give up there spots to a specific non top 25 points guy at a track that they suck at.

VLR_18 wrote: This has nothing to do with me Jim. I made the feature actually but gave my spot up. This is for the racing in general and for people who tag the back of a C and only 1 transfers.

Apparently you drove through BLS34 and VLR Mcgee though to get there.
Anyway, back to the topic. Sorry

make it simpler.........1st 30 guys in vent race.

BLS_F1yer wrote: make it simpler.........1st 30 guys in vent race.

better idea

BLS_F1yer wrote: instead of taking the 5 to make the 30 from qualifying,lock in the top 24 and let the other people race their way into the final 6 spots.like the play in games for NCAA tourney.At least theyd get to race something that night.

I think that sounds really cool and is something different and would let everyone be able to race.


For people who comment on how long the show takes, that's why we start at 8:30 instead of 9. The idea is that qualifying lasts 30 minutes and then the actual racing starts at 9 eastern like most leagues. So basically there is 30 minutes of qualifying and then racing.

HOWEVER the last couple of weeks we've started doing extra qualifying servers so instead of 9 or 10 guys in a qualifying group there are only 6-7. I would like to do even more qualifying groups in the coming weeks if car counts stay high and then qualifying would be done in 10-15 minutes.

Lately it has been finishing in 20 minutes which is really good. The show would be over really fast but we've been having to do C mains every race this year and even a D Main so there's 32 extra laps not counting hot laps and figuring up the lineups. If there are 40+ cars again though Wheel has a format down that he used at Knoxville just it will go quicker now since he knows how many will transfer from each main. Last night we were done at 10:25 and the heats started at 9:00 so it was about 1 1/2 hour to run the heats, C main, B Main, and feature but we also had a froze car which delayed the A Main a bit

I guess i can understand complaining when a show has 15-20 cars but when it as 30-40+ cars you just better plan on being there for alittle bit

I think only people who think they got a actual shot of making the A-Main should show up to a event. That and my ping issues is why I do not race many other leagues besides ERL. I know I do not have a chance of making VLR races cause I am not good enough. So with that said why don't all the leagues get together and come up with something where the best of the best runs at a certain league, then maybe another league let some of the not so talented drivers run in that league and go on down the line to where everyone can run a league and actually have a shot at winning. I enjoy racing with everyone on here except for a few and they are just complete assholes and can not help it. But back to the point like I say I am by far one of the slowest guys on here, so why should I try to race against the best on here VLR guys, BLS, WFO, JFR, Ifrt and XCR.

JFR17 wrote: IF 30 is the magic number then why not just take the top 30 qualifiers for the night when there is more than 30 cars!!!!

I am a rookie and slow at 99%of the tracks but I think I could even qual in the top 30. Hell I even think J-Mac could even pull it off!!!!!lol
and if you dont make qual. then you dont make the show no taggin on the back.

I uhhhh, ummmm, I was like 33rd in qual at Kokomo....I do ALOT better in the race than in qualifying......which is why if I ever drop out of the top 25, I won't be able to race ever.....unless less than 30 cars show....

I'm OK with any of these ideas. Also in my opinion VLR has been running some great shows, especially this year I mean look at the car counts at every race, I felt good qualifying 6th yesterday at Kokomo out of all the cars that were there and battling with Rain at the end of our heat for 1st and actually transferring out of the heat. I would like to apologize to you guys in the A main for my ping went nuts for some reason, guess it was our weather started getting ugly the further we got into the night and sorry Jsn, I lagged back after that restart and when the warp settled for me I started making moves to get to the front, and as soon as I got beside you, I warped so again man I'm sorry for that but it was fun! Good luck to VLR with however y'all choose to run the show next season. See y'all Sunday!

BLS_F1yer wrote: make it simpler.........1st 30 guys in vent race.

Then everybody will just go sit in the VLR vent after whatever races there are on Saturday night....

ERL_Goat wrote: I think only people who think they got a actual shot of making the A-Main should show up to a event. That and my ping issues is why I do not race many other leagues besides ERL. I know I do not have a chance of making VLR races cause I am not good enough. So with that said why don't all the leagues get together and come up with something where the best of the best runs at a certain league, then maybe another league let some of the not so talented drivers run in that league and go on down the line to where everyone can run a league and actually have a shot at winning. I enjoy racing with everyone on here except for a few and they are just complete assholes and can not help it. But back to the point like I say I am by far one of the slowest guys on here, so why should I try to race against the best on here VLR guys, BLS, WFO, JFR, Ifrt and XCR.

Sounds like sarcasm. I think everyone should race and get better.

what about 2 a mains break total # racers into 2 groups even and odd and both groups run for win each group or here an idea take little longer to tell winner but its option and a idea thats all even group a main #1 odd group a main #2 run both groups same laps and all as main race would be but at end of each race take total race times and finish them that way 20 in a main total srry if its confusing but idea thought id share but also like flyers idea 20 30 in vent run maybe u can do non Qulifers race for rest and have lower points for them idea also

No sarcasm it's the truth Shock you know as well as I do that guys like me and others on here can not beat you guys that have done it for years and yes I agree everyone should race to get better but they need to be races for the greats of DTR 2 like yourself and many other drivers on here. Then they need to be races for slower guys like me.

Goat, when I came into the game there was alot...I mean ALOT of people I couldnt even stay on the track with. But I got better by racing them and talking to them. I eventually got to where I could hang with them and on occation I could beat them. I bet every one of the top guys here has a story similar. Dont give up.

I came up with a tier system a year or so ago that never really took off but if 2 or 3 teams wanted to get together and try it I would be willing to help set it up.

I think it would be great for some of the guys not to have to race the Wheels, Shocks, Rains of the world every night to try to get a win. Build alittle confidence

i would be nice

I don't like qualifing and heres why.
most dirt tracks saturday night race shows line up inverted. WHY? it makes for a better show for the fans and it lets the slower racers have a chance to win. High points always starts last in every race. If you win a heat race that will only get you 10 points and a chance for the tropy in the dash. If we would reconsider the way we have been doing the line ups it would make for a better points race, It would be better if each team would run the same track for a season, lets say 12 to 15 times it would be like you are trying to win the track championship at each track(league) what we need to do is quit running this like NASCAR and run it like a Dirt racing game. after each season a league would pick a different track for their next (location) series. JMO and I have thought this for years, it just never went like this.

PS
special races should always be by pill draw and never by qualifing

Thats awesome idea Karl. Maybe set your wetness to a random number to start the show, and go down 5 degrees every round of heats, to bmains, to a main. Wouldn't have to worry about downloading new tracks, and playing around with sets so much every week. I enjoy racing different tracks too, but Karls idea would be cool to try out sometime.

BLS Weekend warriors ran the same track every week,had rolling starts and restarts,cautions random pill draw but we did not do the invert.That was prob the funnest series ive been a part of because from the time we got in the server we pretty much knew what each other had from the previous week and all we had to do was worry about making clean laps

BLS_F1yer wrote: BLS Weekend warriors ran the same track every week,had rolling starts and restarts,cautions random pill draw but we did not do the invert.That was prob the funnest series ive been a part of because from the time we got in the server we pretty much knew what each other had from the previous week and all we had to do was worry about making clean laps

Thats right, like real dirt tracking, if 5 leagues ran 5 different tracks it would be like going to 5 different race tracks and competing for the seasonal championship at each track per week.
forget league racing ive never seen a league show up at any race track I have ever raced at, maybe a team of 3 or 4 cars before but no league or league championships have been giving out from the race tracks I visited. Its all about the individual challenge and accomplishments of each driver. I think Ice is on the right track by asking every driver to not run a team tag at the spring fling 2012. Its ok to be on a team, but is that the way Dirt Track Racing really is? ***just something to rattle around in your heads.