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Na F1yer made the East Bay track. Seems like all Huset's track have one of them gates if you're not careful. I gotta take the one out of Columbus

I see what you mean BMS...I have always said certain people get away with more than others..

and basically this was my entire complaint in a nutshell.

how many drivers were at the race last night?

ya know what dont even answer that because it wasnt anything to do with you or me.

Have a good night all.

What question

VLR_Shock wrote:

Lazy3 wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote: Well maybe if you would SAY who you're talking about instead of "I won't name who or what" maybe we'd all know who you're talking about and you can fight it out with those person(s) instead of coming on the forum after every race complaining. Crap happens on here and if this is how little it takes to make you leave then I don't see how you will last very long online

I've lasted for a very long time and I'd say its because I dont bitch and get mad about petty shit.I'm still trying to figure out where you get that I been bitching for 5 pages. All I done was try to convince Ray to not quit,also I voiced my opinion on the restart rule,and last but not least I asked about the outcome of the incident "deliberite incident" that took place in the "B". I also apologised if I had missed something. Now...you have made it very clear that anything other then the"A" is stupid.Of course your never in a "C" or "B" so I can see how its not important.However I have news for ya bud everyones race is just as important to them as yours are to you,but obviously if you dont care then theres no use carry'n this on any farther.All I can say is I've always enjoyed racing at VLR.

You haven't lazy but I've been reading it all day and it just goes on and on about the same thing. What do people want done? I'm open for suggestions. BMS said he wants consistency on the restart rules, and VLR is consistent with theirs so I can assume he's meaning other series despite making it come off as VLR was changing our restart rule depending on who got wrecked and that doesn't happen at VLR, just watch the Kokomo replay I'm uploading. And yes I'm in the B a lot including last night. And it doesn't sound like you've enjoyed it to much to me.

BS Shock...your talkin out your azz now and you know it! If I wasnt enjoying myself then I wouldnt even bother showing up. Besides,lets forget about the forums and think about the conversations we've had outside of this forum.I have always both in the forum and off,have always defended you when people put you down or just talk shit in general about you or anything having to do with you.I know what you have done and the lengths in which you have gone to make this game enjoyable for everyone here.I also know you dont get the respect you deserve for doing so either.Neither does F1yer or Ice or anyone else that contributes to this game.Forums I thought were supose to be for having open discussions,and I thought thats what we were having,I didnt know we were bitching.I think your reading out of context and making more of it then it really was.I mean cmon bro you have been really defensive throughout the course of this thread and I for one dont think Ray was aiming at you,however I can understand how you can assume when the phrase" not mentioning any names" comes out.I know I certianly werent bitching at you.If you think I was then I'm sorry you feel that way.You know damn well I hardly ever bitch, at you or anyone else.But if I ever had a reason to bitch it was after the VLR race,but even then did you here me bitching? I may have voiced my displeasure about what happened but I still dont think I was bitching.Actually I was more upset to find out that you can drive clear across the track and deliberitly take a car clear out of the event "VLR EVENT TOO" "THE PREMIER LEAGUE EVENT OF DTR2" and all it'll get ya is a 3 point penalty for contact.Whats that saying to someone who just came to thier very 1st DTR2 event?At minumum I would've thought that would get ya at least a 1 race suspension just to think about it before you did it again. 3 pts dont mean shit to someone sitting half way back of the field in pts.Its bout as useless as a crochet condom! Now maybe it would get the attention of someone in the top 3 or top 5 but like I said ya might as well knit the guy on the bottom of the ladder a condom and explain to him not to knock up his girlfriend.But oh well I just hope you can understand its more a frustration thing than a bitching thing.I commend what you and others have done in this game and hope ya'll keep it up.

Then it was just a misunderstanding based on the timing he posted it and the way it was worded made it seem like it was pointed at VLR, which is the league I run, when really it didn't have anything to do with VLR apparently. He only got a three point penalty because I couldn't tell if he overdrove it that bad or if he really meant to hit you that hard. I know you're gonna think that's dumb but I did see his exhaust flames pop out right when he hit you to show that he slowed down even though it was way to late. Since I wasn't 100% what he was tryin to do there I wasn't gonna ban him a week. The first time it's a point deduction and the second time is a ban. Like I said I've been wrecked intentionally at my own series and I didn't ban the person because I talked to them about it after the race (Well actually like two days later cause I was so mad) and we made amends.

I wish some of you guys could do that and the game will come a lot easier. Obviously that's hard to do with SB since you said you helped him with a bunch of stuff the night before but for most guys if you have an incident you can settle it yourself afterwards in a calm way. and BTW I was in the points just outside the lead when the wreck that I'm talking about happened. I don't like to interject into a problem that two drivers have with each other if I can help it because I'd hope you guys are grown up enough to settle it yourselves. Once again this obviously doesn't seem to be the case with SB and he is on a shorter leash than most now. If you don't like the penalty that's too bad you can't make 40 different people happy. It's ashame it's one or two that hated it that voice the loudest when overall last night was a really good race and show IMO. Be nice if people could talk about something good for a change.

And if anyone's wondering the intentional wreck I"m talking about was last season at Sharon when JFR_4h wrecked me because he thought I wrecked him but didn't see that we were three wide. I was so mad I even cussed right on vent which I pretty much never do. After that I left and went and talked to him on yahoo, mostly saying bad things because I was so mad and saw any chance of a championship gone.

After two or three days I calmed down and talked to him again and we haven't had an major issue since and that was I think in November. So what I'm saying is most of us are grown ups here and should be able to settle all this among ourselves. If SB does anything like that again and it's obviously intentional he will be banned for more than just a week and this weak penalty is a warning and it's up to him to decide if he's gonna be able to race the next few races. It might seem weak to start with but he knows if he does anything like that again he won't be racing at VLR for a while, and probably other leagues if they think he's gonna hit people intentionally.

You know i never mentioned the guys name who dumped me but everyone knows who it was "Mav". No apology or anything he left server and vent before i could even talk to him. If you remember right Shock he (Mav) got roughed up in our heat(not by me) and was pissed.I knew as soon as i seen he was starting behind me i was getting dumped.All that aside, What i was trying to say was people like yourself and others i have seen benefit from an after 1 lap restart.(Not VLR) Really where was i going it was the "C" main but it was the point i was trying to get across.I understand you have no control over what happens in other leagues but up until now that was all i had to go by.What i did by turning around was wrong but not without earlier experiences.I will say no more of it.I never accused anyone of cheating.....just seems to me if you are not one the few , you dont get the calls. I will again publicly apologize to JFR LastPlace as my turning around probably cost him the win in C main.

VLR_Shock wrote: Then it was just a misunderstanding based on the timing he posted it and the way it was worded made it seem like it was pointed at VLR, which is the league I run, when really it didn't have anything to do with VLR apparently. He only got a three point penalty because I couldn't tell if he overdrove it that bad or if he really meant to hit you that hard. I know you're gonna think that's dumb but I did see his exhaust flames pop out right when he hit you to show that he slowed down even though it was way to late. Since I wasn't 100% what he was tryin to do there I wasn't gonna ban him a week. The first time it's a point deduction and the second time is a ban. Like I said I've been wrecked intentionally at my own series and I didn't ban the person because I talked to them about it after the race (Well actually like two days later cause I was so mad) and we made amends.

I wish some of you guys could do that and the game will come a lot easier. Obviously that's hard to do with SB since you said you helped him with a bunch of stuff the night before but for most guys if you have an incident you can settle it yourself afterwards in a calm way. and BTW I was in the points just outside the lead when the wreck that I'm talking about happened. I don't like to interject into a problem that two drivers have with each other if I can help it because I'd hope you guys are grown up enough to settle it yourselves. Once again this obviously doesn't seem to be the case with SB and he is on a shorter leash than most now. If you don't like the penalty that's too bad you can't make 40 different people happy. It's ashame it's one or two that hated it that voice the loudest when overall last night was a really good race and show IMO. Be nice if people could talk about something good for a change.

Yeah I saw his exhaust too,I still have the replay and watched it several times over,and after the 1st hit when you see the exhaust you hear him get back in the gas and finish the job of turning me completly araound. But really I didnt think any of that mattered see'n how he admited right after that he done it intentionally! Thats why f1yer called him a fkn moron! Thats the whole reason I got so upset in the 1st place because he admitted it,and yes I did just set up until 4AM helping him,give him a setup chart and spent a few hours tryin to explain it to him and thats the thanks I get.I did think at very min I would've atleast got to keep my spot but I guess i was wrong bout that too.I know I aint gonna win a VLR championship,probably not even get a top 5 but maybe with a little luck I might get to finish in the top 10 but even thats impossible if some idiot is allowed to act out and do w/e the hell he wants and not get reprimanded. And yes it was a great show,I recall congratulating you on the great turnout before the race even started.And I'm with ya bud I would much rather see talk of good things in here instead of bad.

Oh so that explains everything,you didnt know.Well there was a big tadoo over it in the vent afterwards with several peeps giving him hell over it because he admited to doing it intentionally,only thing was he was making up bs excuses as to why he done it like saying that I spun him 1st and he was behind me the whole time and just a bunch of lame bs. Lets see there was f1yer,t92,opeth,ocf,and RB all of who witnessed it and all of who got on his ass over it.Thats why the 3pt thing blew my mind but I guess since you didnt know that explains it all.So I'm sorry for giving ya any static over it I didnt know you didnt know that.? now is...does it make a diff?

VLR_Shock wrote:

Lazy3 wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote: Well maybe if you would SAY who you're talking about instead of "I won't name who or what" maybe we'd all know who you're talking about and you can fight it out with those person(s) instead of coming on the forum after every race complaining. Crap happens on here and if this is how little it takes to make you leave then I don't see how you will last very long online

I've lasted for a very long time and I'd say its because I dont bitch and get mad about petty shit.I'm still trying to figure out where you get that I been bitching for 5 pages. All I done was try to convince Ray to not quit,also I voiced my opinion on the restart rule,and last but not least I asked about the outcome of the incident "deliberite incident" that took place in the "B". I also apologised if I had missed something. Now...you have made it very clear that anything other then the"A" is stupid.Of course your never in a "C" or "B" so I can see how its not important.However I have news for ya bud everyones race is just as important to them as yours are to you,but obviously if you dont care then theres no use carry'n this on any farther.All I can say is I've always enjoyed racing at VLR.

You haven't lazy but I've been reading it all day and it just goes on and on about the same thing. What do people want done? I'm open for suggestions. BMS said he wants consistency on the restart rules, and VLR is consistent with theirs so I can assume he's meaning other series despite making it come off as VLR was changing our restart rule depending on who got wrecked and that doesn't happen at VLR, just watch the Kokomo replay I'm uploading. And yes I'm in the B a lot including last night. And it doesn't sound like you've enjoyed it to much to me.

so you have tried to work on restarts but bms situation happened at vlr and we waited for 18 for an hour........... same boat im thinkin

VLR_Shock wrote: Then it was just a misunderstanding based on the timing he posted it and the way it was worded made it seem like it was pointed at VLR, which is the league I run, when really it didn't have anything to do with VLR apparently. He only got a three point penalty because I couldn't tell if he overdrove it that bad or if he really meant to hit you that hard. I know you're gonna think that's dumb but I did see his exhaust flames pop out right when he hit you to show that he slowed down even though it was way to late. Since I wasn't 100% what he was tryin to do there I wasn't gonna ban him a week. The first time it's a point deduction and the second time is a ban. Like I said I've been wrecked intentionally at my own series and I didn't ban the person because I talked to them about it after the race (Well actually like two days later cause I was so mad) and we made amends.

I wish some of you guys could do that and the game will come a lot easier. Obviously that's hard to do with SB since you said you helped him with a bunch of stuff the night before but for most guys if you have an incident you can settle it yourself afterwards in a calm way. and BTW I was in the points just outside the lead when the wreck that I'm talking about happened. I don't like to interject into a problem that two drivers have with each other if I can help it because I'd hope you guys are grown up enough to settle it yourselves. Once again this obviously doesn't seem to be the case with SB and he is on a shorter leash than most now. If you don't like the penalty that's too bad you can't make 40 different people happy. It's ashame it's one or two that hated it that voice the loudest when overall last night was a really good race and show IMO. Be nice if people could talk about something good for a change.

you waited like a sally. you had ten complaints the first vlr night and say it was a great show???

I'm sorry I didn't know that Superbolt said he did it intentionally in chat, I didn't remember anyone telling me that. I was gonna ask him on Yahoo last night but forgot. I seriously didn't know he admitted to doing it intentionally. The reason I wasn't sure if he did it intentionally on your replay is because I didn't really see you do anything 'bad' to him to make him retaliate like that.

WFO Rainman wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote: Then it was just a misunderstanding based on the timing he posted it and the way it was worded made it seem like it was pointed at VLR, which is the league I run, when really it didn't have anything to do with VLR apparently. He only got a three point penalty because I couldn't tell if he overdrove it that bad or if he really meant to hit you that hard. I know you're gonna think that's dumb but I did see his exhaust flames pop out right when he hit you to show that he slowed down even though it was way to late. Since I wasn't 100% what he was tryin to do there I wasn't gonna ban him a week. The first time it's a point deduction and the second time is a ban. Like I said I've been wrecked intentionally at my own series and I didn't ban the person because I talked to them about it after the race (Well actually like two days later cause I was so mad) and we made amends.

I wish some of you guys could do that and the game will come a lot easier. Obviously that's hard to do with SB since you said you helped him with a bunch of stuff the night before but for most guys if you have an incident you can settle it yourself afterwards in a calm way. and BTW I was in the points just outside the lead when the wreck that I'm talking about happened. I don't like to interject into a problem that two drivers have with each other if I can help it because I'd hope you guys are grown up enough to settle it yourselves. Once again this obviously doesn't seem to be the case with SB and he is on a shorter leash than most now. If you don't like the penalty that's too bad you can't make 40 different people happy. It's ashame it's one or two that hated it that voice the loudest when overall last night was a really good race and show IMO. Be nice if people could talk about something good for a change.

you waited like a sally. you had ten complaints the first vlr night and say it was a great show???

It was Rain. If you disagree then don't race the next one. Kinda like what I did at WFO. There are 20-35 other guys who enjoyed the racing, including me, but they aren't all up on here saying it because that's what you EXPECT when you come to race is to have fun and (hopefully) leave happy. If someone has a bad night they make it known and it overshadows the ones who enjoyed it because they are not as vocal.

If you don't want to race then don't race but don't come on the forum going off about something that's not gonna change. I don't remember you being this vocal when you wrecked JW to win at Kokomo. In fact you probably thought that was a damn good race. When something doesn't benefit Rain he has to get mad and throw a fit, just like at IFRT when you weaseled your way into the A Main. Sorry it didn't work this time.

WFO Rainman wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote:

Lazy3 wrote:

VLR_Shock wrote: Well maybe if you would SAY who you're talking about instead of "I won't name who or what" maybe we'd all know who you're talking about and you can fight it out with those person(s) instead of coming on the forum after every race complaining. Crap happens on here and if this is how little it takes to make you leave then I don't see how you will last very long online

I've lasted for a very long time and I'd say its because I dont bitch and get mad about petty shit.I'm still trying to figure out where you get that I been bitching for 5 pages. All I done was try to convince Ray to not quit,also I voiced my opinion on the restart rule,and last but not least I asked about the outcome of the incident "deliberite incident" that took place in the "B". I also apologised if I had missed something. Now...you have made it very clear that anything other then the"A" is stupid.Of course your never in a "C" or "B" so I can see how its not important.However I have news for ya bud everyones race is just as important to them as yours are to you,but obviously if you dont care then theres no use carry'n this on any farther.All I can say is I've always enjoyed racing at VLR.

You haven't lazy but I've been reading it all day and it just goes on and on about the same thing. What do people want done? I'm open for suggestions. BMS said he wants consistency on the restart rules, and VLR is consistent with theirs so I can assume he's meaning other series despite making it come off as VLR was changing our restart rule depending on who got wrecked and that doesn't happen at VLR, just watch the Kokomo replay I'm uploading. And yes I'm in the B a lot including last night. And it doesn't sound like you've enjoyed it to much to me.

so you have tried to work on restarts but bms situation happened at vlr and we waited for 18 for an hour........... same boat im thinkin

Because he texted me and said he was comin!! And I wrote him back that it was too late and we have to go without him because Rainman is crying, but then he came in right when I sent that so we raced without doing anymore hot laps or anything. Get over it Rain...you're acting like a pre-schooler, forget the high school stuff.