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I have an idea that may put an end to all of this h/s neutral dropping banter that has taken over this fourm. We need a Right Call or tribunal, or whatever you want to call it. I think we need to have all the league owners and only the owners get together and go over the evidence and take a vote and decide once and for all what needs to be done. This mess is quickly destroying this game and turning friends against each other. Here is a list of the league owners that probably need to attend:

XCR
VLR
DOIT
BLS
WFO
ERL
IFRT

If I missed a league I apologize and league owners are welcome.

Now if the league owners agree to it I will moderate this with an open mind and everyone will have a say and the discussion will not be dominated by one or 2 people.

Every owner has more than likely seen enough evidence and can make their own decisions without having to listen to Karl ramble on about how hes so much smarter than everyone else in this game.

So instead of trying to all get together and figure this all out we are going to continue to read about people cheating and split the game. Kinda sad

Every team in this game except for doit still work as a community.Karl and some Do!t members put this wall up by not reprimanding what the rest of the community calls cheating.There is no need to have a meeting so we can here Karl give another of his speeches trying to brainwash people into his way of thinking.

Running a series over top of legit leagues is what kills the community and it gives guys mixed emotions about other guys...I use to say i didn't mind having 2 series going at once at the same time because it's realistic and gives you a place to choose to race...but Doit doing that was just a slap in the face in my honest opinion.

I do agree Logan that race shouldn't have time over the top of yours and if i had realized it before yesterday i woulda tried to get a time change. I know when i put on a special race i get with the teams running that night and work something out

ice go get me some arbys

Maybe Subway...Im trying to be like Jarrod

arbys sounds like good mood food

BLS_F1yer wrote: Every owner has more than likely seen enough evidence and can make their own decisions without having to listen to Karl ramble on about how hes so much smarter than everyone else in this game.

This is exactly what I want to avoid. I want us all to go in adress this in an adult manner with no name calling or bashing of each other or other teams and hash this thing out. I know I got some replays from you a week or so ago but the last thing you told me was that you hadnt looked at them so i wasnt going to go looking through trying to find out where exactly i was supposed to look. Now yesterday I see this replay from Langhorn and Im hearing the exact same thing you are so 100% yes I want to get to the bottom of this and put this mess behind us and move forward. I really think the only way that will happen is if we all get together and come to a conclusion that will help this game in the long run and not hurt it to where we have 2 seperate entities going and stepping over each others shows because there just isnt enough people playing anymore to put on 2 really good shows. I think both shows last night had 14 people in them and if there had been some working together both would have likely had 20-25.

Its really simple , if you get caught cheating you get black balled period. All this does with all the owners and meetings is cause conflict with the community, lets face it, we all do not comprehend things the same simply because we don't! I would suggest that anyone seeing the cheater racing don't race with them, Absence of competition will usually win out in this case.

The East Bay SHow that DO!T is running, is overlapping every league every night this week up untill next week. The East Bay idea was GREAT seeing how that's whats going on down in Florida at the moment but if Karl or whoever is running it would have talked to the leagues they are running over, maybe they could have come to an agrement to postpone the weekly shows for an exciting week of East Bay, but seeing how they didn't and some people are in points racing at the moment, the series are going to be split! Only way things will get back to normal is if Karl can admit his team member was cheating!!! I am 1000% sure of it!!! I am nowhere near a Team Owner but my Team is the ones getting shat on by DO!T so I will do WHATEVER it takes to back my team!!!!

JSN the last thing you said I think is probably the point behind all of this. Up until last night the only thing that I had seen was a 2-3 second blip that I could neither say with 100% was or wasnt hypershifting and Karl was 100% standing up for someone on his team without being 100% sure.

I just really put it in my mind that DOIT never started racing again. I don't go the website , check schedules or anything. Selfishness of the rest of the community has put a bad taste in my mouth for sure.
maybe i'll get banned from there vent but i'll never know cause I never go in there lol.

I do agree with u JSN that there should have been much better communication with the leagues running this week. When I ran the Turkey 100 it clashed with a WFO show and I made a point to talk to Rain and we worked it out and I have done that in the past with whatever league was running that night because it does nothing but make both shows better!

I cant race BLS for a stupid reason.. I think we all need to sit down and think

I also think that besides the h/s neutral dropping we need to take a real hard look at people going backwards, waiting for a lap or several laps to take someone out, and just overall asinine driving and maybe not just suspending them for that series but as a community suspending them because that is just as detrimental to the game if not more so because they are ruining other peoples night.I know a race was all but ruined for a few drivers last night because of a driver waiting and taking out someone going for the lead.

Ill do it again Ice. Ill do it again.

you finished me off there and I will take you out. One way or another before i get banned for good, I will take you out.

Nothing will be done about the h/s. Drop that garbage. Nothing done about, ill be mother fucked if it changes on here. It happens, Dirt track, Nascar, Waiting up to take ppl out will never change. ever. game, real life. fairy land. dreams...it comes with how some of us react...I get fed up with shit, DONT blame the ppl waiting up. blame the ones who cause it..Fuck face

Maybe you need to look more in the mirror to see who is the real problem.